Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sounds like your kiddo is ahead of the game and well prepared for the future![]()
But seriously, no, they can't. As long as the internet is on, it's the wild west. Even without internet, they can run lightweight LLMs such as Deepseek on their local laptop.
Welcome to a new era, where trying to stop kids from accessing information is no longer feasible. Your best bet is to convince them that really knowing something for themselves, is a valuable trait that will become rarer in this world.
If my kid was running an LLM on their computer I'd be more impressed and happy![]()
The controls we have as FCPS parents/guardians are not enough.
I do want to note, it was VERY VERY GOOD, that we got the ability to *turn off YouTube*. That should have always been an option IMO, but I'm glad we got that this year. I want more of that.
Most parents won't change any of the settings, but a solid % of us will, and I wish I could do that.
FYI- all the high schoolers know how to override that with cookies and can watch YouTube.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sounds like your kiddo is ahead of the game and well prepared for the future![]()
But seriously, no, they can't. As long as the internet is on, it's the wild west. Even without internet, they can run lightweight LLMs such as Deepseek on their local laptop.
Welcome to a new era, where trying to stop kids from accessing information is no longer feasible. Your best bet is to convince them that really knowing something for themselves, is a valuable trait that will become rarer in this world.
If my kid was running an LLM on their computer I'd be more impressed and happy![]()
The controls we have as FCPS parents/guardians are not enough.
I do want to note, it was VERY VERY GOOD, that we got the ability to *turn off YouTube*. That should have always been an option IMO, but I'm glad we got that this year. I want more of that.
Most parents won't change any of the settings, but a solid % of us will, and I wish I could do that.
Anonymous wrote:I would tell my kid that AI will very happily and confidently give them the wrong answer sometimes, so they are taking a real risk relying on it. And if you’re going to have to fact check everything AI says, you might as well just do the work. It’s really a gamble to use it as your only tool for studying too. Ask Kim Kardashian how that worked out for her.
Part of the burden is unfortunately now on the teacher to come up with ways to prevent someone from just using AI to create a finished product. For a writing assignment you can require students to turn in the handwritten notes they took while annotating a reading or planning out an essay, for example.
Last but not least, tell your kid that writing teaches you how to organize your thoughts and communicate them to others. You can’t outsource that process and expect to impress someone in a job interview/on the job one day. Maybe your kid won’t care about that (yet), but it’s still worth warning them.
Anonymous wrote:After reading the OP, to think the kid needs all the LLM GenAI help he can get to learn English. Has to have someone in the home to learn from.
Anonymous wrote:You could tell your kid that they're going to have to be smarter than the AI to get a job, so having it do their work is probably a bad idea.
We're already seeing a big spike in jobless rates among recent college grads because employers are just substituting AI for rookies and don't want to spend time or money training them.
Anonymous wrote:You shouldn't really turn off YT. A lot of kids rely on it as a secondary source of learning for many subjects. It's just unwise to limit technology in these ways. Yes, students misuse technology and they spend a lot of time scrolling and surfing, but ompletely removing a learning method from the toolbox isn't smart either.
To the PP whose kid was using AI to make that query, what do you really find wrong with it? Presumably their teacher will also test on the content, so if they are using AI or Google to make these searches, why is that a bad thing? They are taking a task that may have taken them a few hours to do but doing it in minutes. Isn't that what we need them to do heading into a future with AI? If they're writing a paper with AI, those that will stand out are the ones who apply critical reasoning skills while building the essay content. Honestly, I think we're barking up the wrong tree.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can take action with my student directly, and have in the past, but the ability to simply search for answers to writing questions is not good.
Is there any method to inhibit this? I don't see anything in the Digital Resource Consent form, even though there are 12 Google related options (NOTE: You can turn off YouTube there) but none for search results.
Below is an example of my my kid searched:
can you find Reasons for the Growth of American Imperialism and do bullet points in this paragraph: Shortly after the Civil War, Secretary of State WILLIAM SEWARD purchased ALASKA in 1867 from Russia for $7.2 million. Considering how cold Alaska was, many people considered this a foolish purchase, calling it “Seward’s Folly” and referring to Alaska as “Seward’s Icebox.” However, after GOLD was discovered there in the 1890s, it seemed like a wise purchase. The US officially annexed it in 1884, and in 1912 Alaska became a US territory.
I probably wouldn’t assign essays in history then. It’s just repeating already known information anyway. Just stick to quizzes and tests and in class writing only (where they can only type but not search up anything).
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like your kiddo is ahead of the game and well prepared for the future![]()
But seriously, no, they can't. As long as the internet is on, it's the wild west. Even without internet, they can run lightweight LLMs such as Deepseek on their local laptop.
Welcome to a new era, where trying to stop kids from accessing information is no longer feasible. Your best bet is to convince them that really knowing something for themselves, is a valuable trait that will become rarer in this world.
Anonymous wrote:I can take action with my student directly, and have in the past, but the ability to simply search for answers to writing questions is not good.
Is there any method to inhibit this? I don't see anything in the Digital Resource Consent form, even though there are 12 Google related options (NOTE: You can turn off YouTube there) but none for search results.
Below is an example of my my kid searched:
can you find Reasons for the Growth of American Imperialism and do bullet points in this paragraph: Shortly after the Civil War, Secretary of State WILLIAM SEWARD purchased ALASKA in 1867 from Russia for $7.2 million. Considering how cold Alaska was, many people considered this a foolish purchase, calling it “Seward’s Folly” and referring to Alaska as “Seward’s Icebox.” However, after GOLD was discovered there in the 1890s, it seemed like a wise purchase. The US officially annexed it in 1884, and in 1912 Alaska became a US territory.