PS That's not the only reason men earn more

I'm a woman and I've negotiated for every job except one. Big believer in negotiation. I wouldn't in this market but you do you.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait it out, don't go back, but in future would not negotiate salary during these times. Please see earlier thread on this in this subcategory.

As someone who see's everyone's salary, and negotiations, you always negotiate. This is why men earn more. They negotiate and aren't afraid of a no.

Most jobs Ive had offers of recently we established salary before even interviewing. Was that not the case here?

Anonymous wrote:Wait it out, don't go back, but in future would not negotiate salary during these times. Please see earlier thread on this in this subcategory.

As someone who see's everyone's salary, and negotiations, you always negotiate. This is why men earn more. They negotiate and aren't afraid of a no.

"But a good way to re-open the conversation might be to send something nice to the hiring manager. A gourmet coffee basket, selection of fresh fruit, jams/jellies grab-bag, whatever."

Nope. And someone's recommending this in all the job threads (buying people stuff) and don't do this. We're on to you. Please don't give people advice that could hurt their chances.

Wait it out, don't go back, but in future would not negotiate salary during these times. Please see earlier thread on this in this subcategory.

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Anonymous wrote:No don’t negotiate against yourself! They are working it out on their end - either putting together the new offer or coming back to say “we can only go up 5%” or something. I know it’s stressful but hang tight.

This. Especially if your partner is female.

But a good way to re-open the conversation might be to send something nice to the hiring manager. A gourmet coffee basket, selection of fresh fruit, jams/jellies grab-bag, whatever.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No don’t negotiate against yourself! They are working it out on their end - either putting together the new offer or coming back to say “we can only go up 5%” or something. I know it’s stressful but hang tight.

This. Especially if your partner is female.

Fair point.

Just wait it out. DO NOT go back. If they want to hire your partner, a counter is not going to kill it. They may say the can’t do the increase, and then your partner can decide whether to take the job anyway, counter with a request for something non-monetary, or whatever. But going back now before hearing back will make them look weak and desperate.

Good luck!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No don’t negotiate against yourself! They are working it out on their end - either putting together the new offer or coming back to say “we can only go up 5%” or something. I know it’s stressful but hang tight.

This. Especially if your partner is female.

More of the same, nothing new to add, just wait. They will come back with either a yes, no, or some counter offer inbetween. They arent going to rescind the offer because you asked for more.

Anyone who doesn't negotiate for more than the original offer is leaving money on the table

Anonymous wrote:No don’t negotiate against yourself! They are working it out on their end - either putting together the new offer or coming back to say “we can only go up 5%” or something. I know it’s stressful but hang tight.

This. Especially if your partner is female.

No don’t negotiate against yourself! They are working it out on their end - either putting together the new offer or coming back to say “we can only go up 5%” or something. I know it’s stressful but hang tight.

No, don't go back to them unless you literally can't afford to miss a pay period or two while it's sorted out (and even if you do that, they might not be able to onboard him anyway because of the travel so then you've just screwed yourself).

In my experience, everyone negotiates. It is expected. It would be unusual for someone just to accept the first offer. In fact, when we put an offer together, we talk about where we would go to next when the candidate counters.

As long as the candidate is reasonable about it and expresses interest and appreciation in the offer, there is no problem.

Partner got offered a job after period of unemployment. Talked to hiring manager about possibly upping offer by 10% - good conversation and manager was receptive. Manager said they had to check with upper management and that it would take a while to come back due to travel etc. Now partner wondering if they should have taken job with salary as offered and not tried to negotiate. Would it be worth going back to company and saying that they are very interested in job and will take job as offered originally (would state more elegantly). Thoughts?