DD admitted ED to Swat this cycle. Strong private , 1st in class at end of junior year, 800 verbal/730 math; 2 varsity sports with sportsmanship awards in each; school wide leadership position, and STEM ECs relevant to proposed major.
Wanted small school near city.

Anonymous wrote:I would not recommend an ED to WA, but ED/ED2 to SP could be a good idea if you go to a feeder and are competitive already. Williams and Amherst only accept unhooked non-athletes in RD. Swarthmroe and Pomona have a more even spread.

My kid got into Amherst ED as an unhooked non-athlete last cycle. He did have perfect stats but other than that, I can't explain it. Amherst does accept 1-2 kids from his school most years, so they do seem to like his school well enough and ED did probably help him stand out.

I would not recommend an ED to WA, but ED/ED2 to SP could be a good idea if you go to a feeder and are competitive already. Williams and Amherst only accept unhooked non-athletes in RD. Swarthmroe and Pomona have a more even spread.

Anonymous wrote:W and P especially hard ED from our school. Unless you're an athlete. Wiliams might take 50 unhooked kids ED. 50!

But are you still supposed to ED even if chances are minuscule so they can see during RE round that you did ED?

Anonymous wrote:Very few WASPs can crack 1500 on their SATs these days, so not many WASPs care to talk about their college admission results. It’s embarrassing for a WASP whose grandparents and great grandparents went to Harvard to try and act excited about the University of Richmond.

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Very few WASPs can crack 1500 on their SATs these days, so not many WASPs care to talk about their college admission results. It’s embarrassing for a WASP whose grandparents and great grandparents went to Harvard to try and act excited about the University of Richmond.

From DS’ class there is one unhooked girl in ED at Swarthmore (white, full pay, from competitive state and city, private school). I don’t know her stats but she was considering EDing to ann ivy and DS thinks of her as one of the top students so I’d guess they’re strong. It’s the perfect school for this kid, we’re excited for her. No other ED wasp admits this year but Wesleyan, Middlebury, NYU, Smith, Emory, RISD, Northwestern, and an REA to Yale.

Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing very few ED admits, other than one recruited athlete each for Williams and Amherst. Anyone else under the impression it's been a tougher cycle so far? I've seen a handful of (seemingly) unhooked admits for Bowdoin and Davidson, but not the others.

We are seeing the same in our area. Only a few recruited athletes.

If you exclude hooked students including legacy, URM, and FGLI, you are taking fewer than 50 students ED at each school. That includes internationals.

W and P especially hard ED from our school. Unless you're an athlete. Wiliams might take 50 unhooked kids ED. 50!

Anonymous wrote:Following this for next year. Does anyone have any Naviance data to share from their school this cycle? For example how many apps for these schools, how many in ED?

Or stats for those who were or weren't admitted?

Following this for next year. Does anyone have any Naviance data to share from their school this cycle? For example how many apps for these schools, how many in ED?

The only unhooked kids I've known to get in ED1 (or ED2 for SP) are ones with Ivy-level stats who decided to ED to a WASP instead of entering the Ivy scrum. Otherwise, I do think RD outcomes are usually at least somewhat better.

The conventional wisdom for WASP schools is it's extremely hard to get in unhooked ED. Also students strong enough to get in often shoot for Ivies first, then let the rest play out in RD.

I'm seeing very few ED admits, other than one recruited athlete each for Williams and Amherst. Anyone else under the impression it's been a tougher cycle so far? I've seen a handful of (seemingly) unhooked admits for Bowdoin and Davidson, but not the others.