Anonymous wrote:Great topic. Huge negotiator typically who is preparing 'not' to negotiate if get offered a job in this terrible market as fear can't risk it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Executive who oversees a lot of hiring here. We psot salary ranges and have not been negotiating beyond those for the past year due to general belt-tightening.
This is good point. Most jobs post ranges and generally we talk salary before interviewing. I think OP feels the job was more than it seemed and wants to go back an renegotiate. Is that the case?
Anonymous wrote:Executive who oversees a lot of hiring here. We psot salary ranges and have not been negotiating beyond those for the past year due to general belt-tightening.
Anonymous wrote:I've been reviewing a lot of videos online and spoke to a career coach, but I feel like there's something missing from everything I've found online. Most salary negotiation advice online implies that you're applying to your dream job and trying to make a step up. That's not possible for a lot of folks in this job market, especially in the fed and contractor environment where folks would be happy to have employment and may have to set aside their dream job for the sake of staying afloat. How do you negotiate when the job you are offered is a much lower pay (per the recruiter) than your last job paid but you are the top candidate? The interviewing process was rigorous, and I've gotten positive feedback throughout, so they like all that experience I bring, but don't offer a great salary. I get that it's an employer's market and if I push too hard, and the next person is happy to have a job, the employer might move on to the next person.
For what it's worth, I am 20 years into my career and not being greedy here. I'm overqualified for the job as it's written on paper, and well qualified for the job in terms of some of the needs that the higher ups have described. It feels like a lot more is expected of this role than is really outlined in the job description but how do you convey that to the recruiter who hasn't been involved? I've made a list though based on some of the interviews I've been in. I'm grateful to be among the few of my network getting any bites, and I know the decision makers are confident that I am capable of building the program in a great direction.
How are folks navigating salary negotiation after job loss, especially if it's not a move up?
Anonymous wrote:I was laid off in September, got two offers around the holidays, and was able to negotiate to just below my previous salary (about 10% more than what I was offered).
I always negotiate, because your salary is unlikely to go up much after that, in that role at that company, and even moving into another role they will low ball you.
Anonymous wrote:I've been reviewing a lot of videos online and spoke to a career coach, but I feel like there's something missing from everything I've found online. Most salary negotiation advice online implies that you're applying to your dream job and trying to make a step up. That's not possible for a lot of folks in this job market, especially in the fed and contractor environment where folks would be happy to have employment and may have to set aside their dream job for the sake of staying afloat. How do you negotiate when the job you are offered is a much lower pay (per the recruiter) than your last job paid but you are the top candidate? The interviewing process was rigorous, and I've gotten positive feedback throughout, so they like all that experience I bring, but don't offer a great salary. I get that it's an employer's market and if I push too hard, and the next person is happy to have a job, the employer might move on to the next person.
For what it's worth, I am 20 years into my career and not being greedy here. I'm overqualified for the job as it's written on paper, and well qualified for the job in terms of some of the needs that the higher ups have described. It feels like a lot more is expected of this role than is really outlined in the job description but how do you convey that to the recruiter who hasn't been involved? I've made a list though based on some of the interviews I've been in. I'm grateful to be among the few of my network getting any bites, and I know the decision makers are confident that I am capable of building the program in a great direction.
How are folks navigating salary negotiation after job loss, especially if it's not a move up?
Anonymous wrote:I went in with the attitude that money coming in was better than no money. I knew the salary ranges and targets going in. For the offer that I accepted, I countered but had reasons why (increased commuting costs) and they agreed to my request.
I declined some offers that were lower but not only because they were lower.