Anonymous wrote:I own property in VA. Is that enough to get the in-state?

No

Anonymous wrote:A degree from UVA is Ivy-league because UVA is one of the original Public Ivies.

Public Ivies offer the same standard of education as the Ivies, in a public school environment and at a public school cost. These schools are more than just non-Ivies — they're some of the best schools you can attend in the world today.

Just search "best public universities in USA" and you'll find UVA.

Public ivy is a made up term. I’m so tired of ivy plus, little ivy, public ivy etc. not the same as ivies.

This doesn’t mean UVA, Tech and W&M aren’t excellent schools. They are, and they are an incredible value in state. That’s the appeal.

W&M is older than several Ivys - founded in 1693, I think.

UVa says founded 1819, but I think classes did not start that year.

VT is much newer, created explicitly to be the land-grant university.

Quality education, in-state tuition, distance and good/decent weather.

Anonymous wrote:I own property in VA. Is that enough to get the in-state?

is this a joke?

I own property in VA. Is that enough to get the in-state?

If you have to ask.. you won't understand at all. Do some research. All are extremely great schools.

Anonymous wrote:Instate tuition for Virginians.

This!

1. All these schools are much harder to get into, and therefore much more prestigious, than they were in the 90s. Yes, even Wake Forest.
2. Lots of people agree with you, which is why there is still a large college-going population in MD/DC.
3. Many posters from NoVa moved there specifically to have UVA as a backup plan. Then they discovered just how hard it is to get in to UVA from NoVa. They are incredibly defensive about the whole situation. They’re not persuasive but they are persistent.

Collectively they provide the same level of diversity of education, engineering, technology, architecture, hard sciences and liberal arts that would be offered by large OOS schools such as Michigan, University of Texas (Austin), etc.,

Individual they would have a hard time growing due to limited available land. Also VA has a number of other schools that provide a full range of educational opportunities forming one of if not the best state university system in the nation.

UVA, W&M and VT are three schools that offer Virginians a great education at a reasonable price. They are highly sought after but simply do not have the capacity to admit every high achieving high school student in VA.

Thus the level of interest and angst.

The tuition 🙄

Instate tuition for Virginians.

A degree from UVA is Ivy-league because UVA is one of the original Public Ivies.

Public Ivies offer the same standard of education as the Ivies, in a public school environment and at a public school cost. These schools are more than just non-Ivies — they're some of the best schools you can attend in the world today.

Just search "best public universities in USA" and you'll find UVA.

It's like California residents saying they would rather go to UCB UCLA or even UCSD than attending Cornell or Dartmouth. In-state tuition, ROI, donut hole families, etc. Easy to understand. Let it go.

I live in DC and I see VA posters talk about these schools as if they're ivies. Why??? I understand that UVA has a certain mystique as it's VA's only "elite"-approaching school, but, frankly, UVA isn't even Georgetown, nevermind Stanford or Yale.

William and Mary is unique because of its size and also has some level of mystique but, again, I don't understand the commotion. It's essentially a public Wake Forest. Why?

Same story with VT. Even less of a reason to get into a twist because it's just like every other large public school in the nation. It has nice architecture, sure, but...so what?!

Can anyone enlighten me?