Anonymous wrote:I thought the Ring cant be set up to go past your property?

Explain how you think that is remotely possible.

The cameras are the least of it. Alexa, Siri, etc., are basically eavesdropping on you all the time. Those key words to give a command are processed at their location, and they eavesdrop on everything you can say so that they can respond to their signal word.

https://medium.com/@staneyjoseph.in/the-dark-side-of-ai-how-your-voice-assistants-are-spying-on-you-without-you-knowing-6db584871dee

Get this crap out of your homes, people. Alexa, Ring - it’s all fair game. You’re being monitored in your home. Do you trust Bezos not to sell you out to make a buck? I don’t.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]One of the may negative aspects of this administration which will haunt us for years is the role it is playing in encouraging the spread of mass surveillance. I thought Americans used to be so protective of their privacy. What happened?![/quote]

I don't think any American has any expectation of privacy out in public. When I walk my dog on a two mile loop in my neighborhood, I'm sure I trigger 40 or so ring cameras. When I drive four miles to work, I go through about 12 intersections with traffic cameras. If I stop at Dunkin, there are a couple more cameras. I pass 7 cameras to get from my parking garage to my office. And most of those are inside the building.

Cameras all through the schools, the grocery stores, the retail parking lots. Privately owned license plate readers. And more. [/quote]

+1 Do what you're supposed to do, obey rules and laws, don't commit crimes. Our camera "catches" us in scruffy clothes walking our lab, checking the mail, picking up deliveries, leaving and returning home from work. Feel free to check our Ring info.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the may negative aspects of this administration which will haunt us for years is the role it is playing in encouraging the spread of mass surveillance. I thought Americans used to be so protective of their privacy. What happened?!

I don't think any American has any expectation of privacy out in public. When I walk my dog on a two mile loop in my neighborhood, I'm sure I trigger 40 or so ring cameras. When I drive four miles to work, I go through about 12 intersections with traffic cameras. If I stop at Dunkin, there are a couple more cameras. I pass 7 cameras to get from my parking garage to my office. And most of those are inside the building.

Cameras all through the schools, the grocery stores, the retail parking lots. Privately owned license plate readers. And more.

It’s too bad. My area is like this, too.

I wear baseball caps to hide from all the cameras on walks. Some people are crazy with more than 12 cameras in a house. Makes me wonder if they are holding people hostage or what.

My dementia addled neighbor claimed my spouse took her dog and that she saw it on camera. Insane. He actually put the dog back into her yard. I told her to review her camera footage again.

I have not found home cameras useful so far. Police body cameras and such are fine.

Stop using Ring.

It’s stupid anyway as all a burglar needs to do is wear a mask to not be identified.

I thought the Ring cant be set up to go past your property?

Anonymous wrote:One of the may negative aspects of this administration which will haunt us for years is the role it is playing in encouraging the spread of mass surveillance. I thought Americans used to be so protective of their privacy. What happened?!

I don't think any American has any expectation of privacy out in public. When I walk my dog on a two mile loop in my neighborhood, I'm sure I trigger 40 or so ring cameras. When I drive four miles to work, I go through about 12 intersections with traffic cameras. If I stop at Dunkin, there are a couple more cameras. I pass 7 cameras to get from my parking garage to my office. And most of those are inside the building.

Cameras all through the schools, the grocery stores, the retail parking lots. Privately owned license plate readers. And more.

Anonymous wrote:One of the may negative aspects of this administration which will haunt us for years is the role it is playing in encouraging the spread of mass surveillance. I thought Americans used to be so protective of their privacy. What happened?!

It died with cell phones that track your whereabouts, and facial recognition.

Anonymous wrote:We turned off the recording on our ring, and I'm now glad we did. I was just telling DH we should get a different home security system.

Cute that you think turning off the recording, turns off the recording.

One of the may negative aspects of this administration which will haunt us for years is the role it is playing in encouraging the spread of mass surveillance. I thought Americans used to be so protective of their privacy. What happened?!

I read a book that had police blackmail a citizen through her ring camera, so I haven't had any desire to set one up.

Even the Nazis never imagined that their victims voluntarily pay for their oppression.

We turned off the recording on our ring, and I'm now glad we did. I was just telling DH we should get a different home security system.

Amazon has partnered with law enforcement to allow them to directly request video from owners of Ring cameras. It's supposed to be up to the Ring camera owner to decide whether to provide the video. However, critics are arguing that this is part of an effort to build the largest surveillance network ever in the US.

Do you trust Bezos to safeguard your data? DHS is already actively spying on and kidnapping everyday citizens with other appropriated data.


Ars Technica: Ring cameras are about to get increasingly chummy with law enforcement

Law enforcement agencies will soon have easier access to footage captured by Amazon’s Ring smart cameras. In a partnership announced this week, Amazon will allow approximately 5,000 local law enforcement agencies to request access to Ring camera footage via surveillance platforms from Flock Safety. Ring’s cooperation with law enforcement and the reported use of Flock technologies by federal agencies, including US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), has resurfaced privacy concerns that have followed the devices for years.


CNBC: Amazon Ring security cameras moving deeper into law enforcement

he Ring Community Requests feature will be available for use with the FlockOS and Flock Nova platforms that are contracted by local public safety agencies. That will enable law enforcement officers to directly request video evidence from Ring cameras, but citizens will make the decision whether to share video. Police requests will go into what is called the Ring Neighbors feed, which pings camera users within an area identified as relevant to the crime, and camera owners can then share video, which is kept in a secure environment and can only be used for the single crime investigation.


Futurism: Fury as Amazon Ring Cameras Are Hooked Up to ICE System

Safety experts and tech critics have long condemned the Ring devices for security risks and privacy violations, not to mention their role in building the largest civilian surveillance network in US history. Last summer, the Electronic Frontier Foundation warned that Ring was actively eroding civil liberties in the US for profit.

Those criticisms are seeing renewed urgency amidst ICE’s brutal crackdown on illegal immigration. Though unlawful entry into the United States is only considered a civil violation, ICE enforcement activities under president Donald Trump have resulted in at least 33 deaths — not to mention the unlawful detention of over 170 US citizens.