How do you know he isn't in with bad companions via that phone, making him feel the way he acts out sbout?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t you take the phone away? Honest question.

Because that's unrelated to him being a jerk and would actually harm his ability to collaborate and communicate. It's not at all germane to the problem. He's not wasting time on screens or abusing social media privileges.

Is this op?

So you're unwilling to make him uncomfortable in anyway.?.

You need family therapy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP again. Like, if this is who he is under stress (that I am not imposing) I am worried he is going to become a pretty awful person, tempermentally and ethically.

OP you raised a POS.

You said you are not interested in taking his phone away.

You sound like you don't want your kid to have consequenses which is how you got into this mess. Consequences should have happened in Middle School when this started, now it is too late it is ingrained in his personality because you were too lazy to do something when it started.

Kids do not become this way in a vaccum.

This is SO not true. Do you even have kids? What are you doing replying to a post like this when you obviously don't have teens -- it sounds like you haven't even gone through adolescence yourself yet! Lots of people go through SHIT periods during their teen years, which are universally acknowledged as the most miserable and stressful years of many people's lives, and turn out to be fine adults.

OP, don't listen to the prepubescent jerk above.

Sir/Ma’am shut this behavior and those antics down.
Both parents. Every single time.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP again. Like, if this is who he is under stress (that I am not imposing) I am worried he is going to become a pretty awful person, tempermentally and ethically.

OP you raised a POS.

You said you are not interested in taking his phone away.

You sound like you don't want your kid to have consequenses which is how you got into this mess. Consequences should have happened in Middle School when this started, now it is too late it is ingrained in his personality because you were too lazy to do something when it started.

Kids do not become this way in a vaccum.

Really appreciate you calling my kid a POS as you call me a bad parent. I'm not perfect, but this is kind of unecessarily cruel, don't you think?

Anonymous wrote:OP again. Like, if this is who he is under stress (that I am not imposing) I am worried he is going to become a pretty awful person, tempermentally and ethically.

OP you raised a POS.

You said you are not interested in taking his phone away.

You sound like you don't want your kid to have consequenses which is how you got into this mess. Consequences should have happened in Middle School when this started, now it is too late it is ingrained in his personality because you were too lazy to do something when it started.

Kids do not become this way in a vaccum.

Anonymous wrote:Mine is hell bent on failing. Rude, dishonest, lazy, thinks lying to parents will make bad grades go away. Count yourself lucky I guess?

I'm sorry. That's also really hard.

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t you take the phone away? Honest question.

Because that's unrelated to him being a jerk and would actually harm his ability to collaborate and communicate. It's not at all germane to the problem. He's not wasting time on screens or abusing social media privileges.

Mine is hell bent on failing. Rude, dishonest, lazy, thinks lying to parents will make bad grades go away. Count yourself lucky I guess?

Why can’t you take the phone away? Honest question.

OP again. Like, if this is who he is under stress (that I am not imposing) I am worried he is going to become a pretty awful person, tempermentally and ethically.

Yeah, I do. And I will. But it makes just about every interaction unpleasant. It's awful.

Call out the rudeness every single time.

“WOW.”

“That was rude.”

“I beg your pardon!”

“Seriously?”

Do not let it be normalized.

My HS Junior is an absolute nightmare. Mean, arrogant, not open to advice, and I worry they are going to cheat or lie to get ahead (they already stretch truths) in the name of "achievement." We never pushed for top colleges, but they are determined to get into one. Turns out they could be a good candidate but they want more. They are singularly-focused on achievement at all costs: sleep, basic kindness, cooperation, rule following, all of it. I want to throttle them daily, disavow finacial help, or move out. I can't take much more of this rudeness, bravado, over-confidence, and anger directed at me.

I am not looking for anyone to tell me to take their phone away. I am looking for compassion and similar experiences or maybe advice. Also wanted to vent.