Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 14:59     Subject: where would Williams and Amherst rank in the ivy league..
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure, I guess. But with such extraordinarily selective schools, who really cares?


Williams and Amherst, and many other SLACS, are fantastic schools but they would rank lower than any of the Ivies in a head to head competition due to the lack of comparable science and engineering resources. They aren't really comparable which is why they are separately ranked.


Yes, and they would beat the Ivies for quality of UG education. Agree they are apples and oranges.

This isn’t true for most of the Ivy League. Ivies have strong undergraduate education and a few focus on their undergraduate experience. There’s no real proof that LACs are better or spend more on teaching.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 14:56     Subject: where would Williams and Amherst rank in the ivy league..
Anonymous wrote:At the bottom. There’s no reason Dartmouth isn’t better than both and Dartmouth is not even a top Ivy.
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except for the quality of the education, undergrad teaching, student experience, and career salary outcomes.

Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 14:56     Subject: Re:where would Williams and Amherst rank in the ivy league..
Every other post in this forum is now about college rankings/tiers. It is tiresome.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 14:54     Subject: where would Williams and Amherst rank in the ivy league..
At the bottom. There’s no reason Dartmouth isn’t better than both and Dartmouth is not even a top Ivy.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 14:53     Subject: where would Williams and Amherst rank in the ivy league..
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure, I guess. But with such extraordinarily selective schools, who really cares?


Williams and Amherst, and many other SLACS, are fantastic schools but they would rank lower than any of the Ivies in a head to head competition due to the lack of comparable science and engineering resources. They aren't really comparable which is why they are separately ranked.


Yes, and they would beat the Ivies for quality of UG education. Agree they are apples and oranges.


You sound unhinged.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 14:39     Subject: where would Williams and Amherst rank in the ivy league..
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure, I guess. But with such extraordinarily selective schools, who really cares?


Williams and Amherst, and many other SLACS, are fantastic schools but they would rank lower than any of the Ivies in a head to head competition due to the lack of comparable science and engineering resources. They aren't really comparable which is why they are separately ranked.


I agree with this for engineering. But also - I think engineering is about to get the CS treatment bcs of AI ie the market is about to tank. Ditto languages and law.

But for "sciences"? No. Williams especially strong in science and math.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 14:38     Subject: where would Williams and Amherst rank in the ivy league..
Nauseating ...
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 14:38     Subject: where would Williams and Amherst rank in the ivy league..
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure, I guess. But with such extraordinarily selective schools, who really cares?


Williams and Amherst, and many other SLACS, are fantastic schools but they would rank lower than any of the Ivies in a head to head competition due to the lack of comparable science and engineering resources. They aren't really comparable which is why they are separately ranked.


Totally agree. Williams and Amherst can't compare with the ivy league because virtually all of them are much larger research institutions. The academic resources of Princeton/Harvard/Cornell/Penn are light years ahead of Williams and Amherst.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 14:38     Subject: where would Williams and Amherst rank in the ivy league..
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure, I guess. But with such extraordinarily selective schools, who really cares?


Williams and Amherst, and many other SLACS, are fantastic schools but they would rank lower than any of the Ivies in a head to head competition due to the lack of comparable science and engineering resources. They aren't really comparable which is why they are separately ranked.


Yes, and they would beat the Ivies for quality of UG education. Agree they are apples and oranges.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 14:37     Subject: where would Williams and Amherst rank in the ivy league..
You must be kidding. Fine schools but below Ivies for sure.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 14:35     Subject: where would Williams and Amherst rank in the ivy league..
Anonymous wrote:Sure, I guess. But with such extraordinarily selective schools, who really cares?


Williams and Amherst, and many other SLACS, are fantastic schools but they would rank lower than any of the Ivies in a head to head competition due to the lack of comparable science and engineering resources. They aren't really comparable which is why they are separately ranked.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 14:32     Subject: where would Williams and Amherst rank in the ivy league..
Anonymous wrote:how would you rank overall based on the following - overall prestige, quality of undergraduate instruction, outcomes, quality of life, social. I’d wedge them in as follows:
Harvard, Yale, Princeton > Williams > Columbia, Dartmouth > Amherst > Brown, Cornell


Thanks for the laugh.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 14:32     Subject: where would Williams and Amherst rank in the ivy league..
Sure, I guess. But with such extraordinarily selective schools, who really cares?
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 14:31     Subject: where would Williams and Amherst rank in the ivy league..
Penn at bottom also
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2025 14:30     Subject: where would Williams and Amherst rank in the ivy league..
how would you rank overall based on the following - overall prestige, quality of undergraduate instruction, outcomes, quality of life, social. I’d wedge them in as follows:
Harvard, Yale, Princeton > Williams > Columbia, Dartmouth > Amherst > Brown, Cornell