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Anonymous wrote:Are you guy kidding? Raw and delirious are considered top 10 stand up specials of all time and he didn’t have the type of movies Denzel did but he was very successful in his movie career and had lots of hits

She is judging his comedy by today's Puritanical standards where nothing is funny and everything is offensive.

Wrong.

I’m in my 50s and watched his original stand-up when it came out. I thought it was funny…but I was young.

Have you rewatched it recently? It’s not that funny. A lot if it was boring. Silly.

And I’m not judging it by puritanical standards or today’s values. I love comedy and my taste skews off color/offensive/pushing limits.

Like some others deemed legendary/icons/GOATS by prior generations, subsequent talents have dramatically eclipsed him—illustrating that he was a bit overrated.

ICYMI: his stand-up career was very short-lived. He had a limited amount of material and at some point realized he needed to hang up the microphone lest he tarnish his reputation. That’s okay, but it underscores how he really wasn’t the stand-up genius some people thought. Yes, his silly movie career (a la Sandler) was quite lucrative. So much so that he could have transitioned to a more serious/quasi-serious film career (a la Sandler), but he didn’t…because his pompous and difficult reputation preceded him (along with baby mama drama and drug issues).

Anonymous wrote:Are you guy kidding? Raw and delirious are considered top 10 stand up specials of all time and he didn’t have the type of movies Denzel did but he was very successful in his movie career and had lots of hits

Denzel is an Actor with a huge A.

Eddie is a very funny comedian.

They are complete opposites as artists. The original poster comparing them is really reaching for straws. They are soooo different that the only similarity is age and skin color. It is a very strange comparison.

Anonymous wrote:Are you guy kidding? Raw and delirious are considered top 10 stand up specials of all time and he didn’t have the type of movies Denzel did but he was very successful in his movie career and had lots of hits

She is judging his comedy by today's Puritanical standards where nothing is funny and everything is offensive.

Are you guy kidding? Raw and delirious are considered top 10 stand up specials of all time and he didn’t have the type of movies Denzel did but he was very successful in his movie career and had lots of hits

Okay, let’s not turn this into a thread about Denzel.

My point was that Eddie blew it because he’s a jerk. An arrogant jerk.

Eddie’s star was rising. He was opening films that made big profits. He could have transitioned that into a more mainstream movie career rather easily. The offers would have been there.

But he quickly developed a reputation for being a bad guy. He burned bridges and was assumed to be a liability, and that limited future options.

He is known to be very thin-skinned and a diva. Just ask David Spade (or any comics, really).

Anyway, Eddie isn’t a hero. He got very lucky with his SNL break (another young black comic essentially had the role but then lost it when SNL learned he couldn’t read). He was smart to leave SNL so quickly because he really wasn’t as talented as people thought; watch his SNL skits and you’ll see he was a one trick pony who capitalized on his 15 minutes of fame to build a certain kind of acting career. But he blew it. He could have transitioned into more substantial roles, but he got greedy and his personal life became too public and off putting to Hollywood and the general audience.

PS - his old standup really wasn’t that good either. He isn’t the great comic some say he was. The fact that he stopped doing stand up comedy so early on speaks volumes.

Anonymous wrote:He must have had complete control over the narrative because he was widely known as a bad boy with a big, arrogant ego who burned bridges in Hollywood. He limited his career by being a jerk. He could have just as easily transitioned into a Denzel had he not alienated so many people.

And he’s still very arrogant.

Denzel is one of the most talented actors in Hollywood.

Eddie was funny in his day, but not at all similar to Denzel in talent, career or ability. To compare the two seems completely random. The only similarity they remotely have is being somewhat of a similar skin color.

A better comparison would be that he could have reinvented himself like Jimmy Kimmel who was also a comedian with a very sexist, inappropriate career who managed to morph into the complete opposite of his previous life, making all of his current fans ignore his career roots.

That would be a good comparison.

But Denzel? No way. They could not be more different talent wise and professionally.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He must have had complete control over the narrative because he was widely known as a bad boy with a big, arrogant ego who burned bridges in Hollywood. He limited his career by being a jerk. He could have just as easily transitioned into a Denzel had he not alienated so many people.

And he’s still very arrogant.

Denzel? C’mon now. On Denzel’s worst day Eddie looks like his ugly younger cousin.

No, I think they are both genuinely two of the most beautiful looking men I've ever seen, young and old.

You need glasses

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He must have had complete control over the narrative because he was widely known as a bad boy with a big, arrogant ego who burned bridges in Hollywood. He limited his career by being a jerk. He could have just as easily transitioned into a Denzel had he not alienated so many people.

And he’s still very arrogant.

Denzel? C’mon now. On Denzel’s worst day Eddie looks like his ugly younger cousin.

No, I think they are both genuinely two of the most beautiful looking men I've ever seen, young and old.

Documentary was way too sanitized. I was shocked when he said he didn’t get into drugs like Whitney because he loved himself and didn’t even mention how terribly he treated her. Also skipping over the hooker incident. Just a huge phony.

Anonymous wrote:He must have had complete control over the narrative because he was widely known as a bad boy with a big, arrogant ego who burned bridges in Hollywood. He limited his career by being a jerk. He could have just as easily transitioned into a Denzel had he not alienated so many people.

And he’s still very arrogant.

Denzel? C’mon now. On Denzel’s worst day Eddie looks like his ugly younger cousin.

He must have had complete control over the narrative because he was widely known as a bad boy with a big, arrogant ego who burned bridges in Hollywood. He limited his career by being a jerk. He could have just as easily transitioned into a Denzel had he not alienated so many people.

And he’s still very arrogant.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. I really enjoyed it. Learned quite a bit about Eddie and other celebrities.

OP here. I kind of enjoyed it, he came across as a really interesting guy. But then I remembered his stand up from the 80s and how it was just "f*ck this" and "mother-f*cker" etc and just was not funny (I was a very young teen)

Also I looked up his kids. The eldest three all came from different mothers, including the woman he married.

I think there was a lot of bad behavior that was not touched upon.

Pp here. Agree that there was questionable behavior that wasn’t touched on…(transvestite scandal) and as someone who hates cursing the f bombs we’re a bit much but I am in my early 40s so there’s quite a bit about him that I didn’t know. I had no idea the “party all the time song” was Eddie.

Anonymous wrote:Yes. I really enjoyed it. Learned quite a bit about Eddie and other celebrities.

OP here. I kind of enjoyed it, he came across as a really interesting guy. But then I remembered his stand up from the 80s and how it was just "f*ck this" and "mother-f*cker" etc and just was not funny (I was a very young teen)

Also I looked up his kids. The eldest three all came from different mothers, including the woman he married.

I think there was a lot of bad behavior that was not touched upon.

Yes. I really enjoyed it. Learned quite a bit about Eddie and other celebrities.

Anyone else watch this?