It really should be more fluid. Some kids should cycle in and out, while some kids will always be in and most will always be out.

If you are in a program called advanced ACADEMIC program and had the benefit of getting advanced academic enrichment all year and yet you are scoring lower on the MAP than students who had zero academic enrichment, you should get bumped out.

Likewise the students who had no academic enrichment and were with students who were lower academically, which potentially stalled their pace of learning, yet scored high on the MAP should be moved into the program.

It’s ridiculous you test in as a second grader and automatically stay in through 8th grade.

All kids have regular class Assignments and tests anyway. Just have a standardised one for both the AAP and General Ed classes.

Why not ask all to write an essay about Romeo and Juliet and the ones that get an A are automatically credited AAP for that English section? Do the same for every other section of the course. That way some official gen Ed kids will rise to the challenge and some AAP kids will fail so there’s a natural “ promotion/relegation” system in place.

Anonymous wrote:Reevaluate every year? We don’t even do that for special education. The reevaluation schedule is every three years for that.

Go parent refer if you want your kid assessed for AAP. Do it every year. But please stop with this suggestion of wasting time and resources.

The aap kid who can't do the math and is getting pulled out for one on one's to try to catch them up is wasting resources, move them to general math

Reevaluate every year? We don’t even do that for special education. The reevaluation schedule is every three years for that.

Go parent refer if you want your kid assessed for AAP. Do it every year. But please stop with this suggestion of wasting time and resources.

Anonymous wrote:Way too time consuming, which means that it would be costly.

At our ES, Teachers encouraged parents to apply if they thought AAP was needed and the kid had not been placed in the program. This is pretty much what Principal Placement is supposed to do. If your child is placed in the LLIV class by the Principal, then I would apply for the program. Or if a Teacher encouraged me, I would apply.

I do think that there should be guidelines for dropping kids, something like kids need to pass advanced on the SOL, maintain a 95th percentile on iReady/MAP, and have mostly 4s on their report card. But that would cause parents to lose their minds so it won’t happen.

Eh my kid has been all over the board on iready over the elementary years in a different school system (from the 60th to 99th percentile), but absolutely thrived after being placed in AAP this year. Last year, consistently declined on iready from sept to June, then popped back up to high 90s on the fall iready. He actually took the COGAT twice within 6 months (tested before FCPS and they didn't know so retested when he switched in) and math percentile changed from 80th to 99th.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Way too time consuming, which means that it would be costly.

At our ES, Teachers encouraged parents to apply if they thought AAP was needed and the kid had not been placed in the program. This is pretty much what Principal Placement is supposed to do. If your child is placed in the LLIV class by the Principal, then I would apply for the program. Or if a Teacher encouraged me, I would apply.

I do think that there should be guidelines for dropping kids, something like kids need to pass advanced on the SOL, maintain a 95th percentile on iReady/MAP, and have mostly 4s on their report card. But that would cause parents to lose their minds so it won’t happen.

Strict criteria like that is a bit insane. My kid's 2nd grade teacher thought he was a good fit for AAP and this year's 4th grade teacher reiterated that at the parent conference, but he (just barely) doesn't meet your parameters.

Our school has had so much teacher turnover not all of the teachers know enough about aap to recommend or not

then do parent referral. if it’s not 2nd grade where your child was in pool based on testing you have to do that anyways. it’s pretty obvious which kids should apply

+1 DC was told by numerous teachers that they needed to apply and got in for 5th grade at the top of her AAP class

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Anonymous wrote:Way too time consuming, which means that it would be costly.

At our ES, Teachers encouraged parents to apply if they thought AAP was needed and the kid had not been placed in the program. This is pretty much what Principal Placement is supposed to do. If your child is placed in the LLIV class by the Principal, then I would apply for the program. Or if a Teacher encouraged me, I would apply.

I do think that there should be guidelines for dropping kids, something like kids need to pass advanced on the SOL, maintain a 95th percentile on iReady/MAP, and have mostly 4s on their report card. But that would cause parents to lose their minds so it won’t happen.

Strict criteria like that is a bit insane. My kid's 2nd grade teacher thought he was a good fit for AAP and this year's 4th grade teacher reiterated that at the parent conference, but he (just barely) doesn't meet your parameters.

Our school has had so much teacher turnover not all of the teachers know enough about aap to recommend or not

then do parent referral. if it’s not 2nd grade where your child was in pool based on testing you have to do that anyways. it’s pretty obvious which kids should apply

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Anonymous wrote:Way too time consuming, which means that it would be costly.

At our ES, Teachers encouraged parents to apply if they thought AAP was needed and the kid had not been placed in the program. This is pretty much what Principal Placement is supposed to do. If your child is placed in the LLIV class by the Principal, then I would apply for the program. Or if a Teacher encouraged me, I would apply.

I do think that there should be guidelines for dropping kids, something like kids need to pass advanced on the SOL, maintain a 95th percentile on iReady/MAP, and have mostly 4s on their report card. But that would cause parents to lose their minds so it won’t happen.

Strict criteria like that is a bit insane. My kid's 2nd grade teacher thought he was a good fit for AAP and this year's 4th grade teacher reiterated that at the parent conference, but he (just barely) doesn't meet your parameters.

Our school has had so much teacher turnover not all of the teachers know enough about aap to recommend or not

Sorry your kid didn’t get in. No, don’t lie because it’s anonymous.

No one needs to get in at any time other than the existing opportunities. If a kid in AAP is getting failing grades, they should be removed.

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Anonymous wrote:Way too time consuming, which means that it would be costly.

At our ES, Teachers encouraged parents to apply if they thought AAP was needed and the kid had not been placed in the program. This is pretty much what Principal Placement is supposed to do. If your child is placed in the LLIV class by the Principal, then I would apply for the program. Or if a Teacher encouraged me, I would apply.

I do think that there should be guidelines for dropping kids, something like kids need to pass advanced on the SOL, maintain a 95th percentile on iReady/MAP, and have mostly 4s on their report card. But that would cause parents to lose their minds so it won’t happen.

Strict criteria like that is a bit insane. My kid's 2nd grade teacher thought he was a good fit for AAP and this year's 4th grade teacher reiterated that at the parent conference, but he (just barely) doesn't meet your parameters.

But, maybe reevaluate the kids who are getting pulled out for extra help because they can't keep up...

agreed. true colors show when test prep juice runs out.

Anonymous wrote:A child might not have been a good fit in 2nd grade but by 5th could have matured enough to be considered advanced. Similarly, a child who seemed advanced in 2nd grade could be falling behind in AAP by 5th grade. Shouldn't we reconsider every year??

salty

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Anonymous wrote:Way too time consuming, which means that it would be costly.

At our ES, Teachers encouraged parents to apply if they thought AAP was needed and the kid had not been placed in the program. This is pretty much what Principal Placement is supposed to do. If your child is placed in the LLIV class by the Principal, then I would apply for the program. Or if a Teacher encouraged me, I would apply.

I do think that there should be guidelines for dropping kids, something like kids need to pass advanced on the SOL, maintain a 95th percentile on iReady/MAP, and have mostly 4s on their report card. But that would cause parents to lose their minds so it won’t happen.

Strict criteria like that is a bit insane. My kid's 2nd grade teacher thought he was a good fit for AAP and this year's 4th grade teacher reiterated that at the parent conference, but he (just barely) doesn't meet your parameters.

But, maybe reevaluate the kids who are getting pulled out for extra help because they can't keep up...

Anonymous wrote:Way too time consuming, which means that it would be costly.

At our ES, Teachers encouraged parents to apply if they thought AAP was needed and the kid had not been placed in the program. This is pretty much what Principal Placement is supposed to do. If your child is placed in the LLIV class by the Principal, then I would apply for the program. Or if a Teacher encouraged me, I would apply.

I do think that there should be guidelines for dropping kids, something like kids need to pass advanced on the SOL, maintain a 95th percentile on iReady/MAP, and have mostly 4s on their report card. But that would cause parents to lose their minds so it won’t happen.

Strict criteria like that is a bit insane. My kid's 2nd grade teacher thought he was a good fit for AAP and this year's 4th grade teacher reiterated that at the parent conference, but he (just barely) doesn't meet your parameters.

Way too time consuming, which means that it would be costly.

At our ES, Teachers encouraged parents to apply if they thought AAP was needed and the kid had not been placed in the program. This is pretty much what Principal Placement is supposed to do. If your child is placed in the LLIV class by the Principal, then I would apply for the program. Or if a Teacher encouraged me, I would apply.

I do think that there should be guidelines for dropping kids, something like kids need to pass advanced on the SOL, maintain a 95th percentile on iReady/MAP, and have mostly 4s on their report card. But that would cause parents to lose their minds so it won’t happen.

A child might not have been a good fit in 2nd grade but by 5th could have matured enough to be considered advanced. Similarly, a child who seemed advanced in 2nd grade could be falling behind in AAP by 5th grade. Shouldn't we reconsider every year??