Anonymous wrote:

If the opposite were true, then retail energy prices that almost all of us are paying would at least be on par to last year, not up.

No, because there are other other factors involved.

Please expkain to me like I’m an idiot why this isn’tvtrue.

See section 4.4:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1040619025000612#sec0020

If the opposite were true, then retail energy prices that almost all of us are paying would at least be on par to last year, not up.

Please expkain to me like I’m an idiot why this isn’tvtrue.

Anonymous wrote:

The Data centers are being subsidized by average retail rate payers.

Not true. In fact, the opposite is.

ATLANTA, Georgia — An hour before hearing testimony from the public and advocacy groups, the Georgia Public Service Commission (PSC) posted a settlement agreement approving Georgia Power’s plan to build the most expensive gas plants in the country, leaving Georgians to foot the bill.

The settlement, which the PSC is expected to vote on during its Dec. 19 meeting, approves Georgia Power’s “Requests for Proposals,” or RFP, despite clear warnings from the Sierra Club, Southern Alliance for Clean Energy, and PSC’s own staff that Georgia Power’s plan hinges on a data center bubble. The utility’s proposal is expected to cost at least $15 billion in capital costs, though the total costs have yet to be publicly disclosed. The proposed settlement would dramatically increase Georgian’s energy bills for years to come for data centers that might not even be built. Several counties in Georgia have already passed moratoriums on data centers, awaiting more insight into their potential impact on local communities

Anonymous wrote:Trump took away the clean energy, subsidies for wind and solar, which are producing more and more of our energy. So of course costs are going up.

Anonymous wrote:Trump took away the clean energy, subsidies for wind and solar, which are producing more and more of our energy. So of course costs are going up.

Anonymous wrote:

The Data centers are being subsidized by average retail rate payers.

Not true. In fact, the opposite is.

Anonymous wrote:

The report pointed to the massive spending bill Trump signed in July, which it claims is "driving up utility costs and destroying jobs by removing cheaper, cleaner energy sources from the grid, all while funding new tax breaks for the oil and gas industries."
Projects that were canceled or delayed since Trump’s election have led to a loss of 24,958.5 megawatts of planned energy generation, which could have powered more than 13.17 million homes, according to the report.

Prices are expected to spike even further, especially as rising energy demands are driven by data centers and extreme heat, the study said.
…
What’s happening behind the scenes is the Trump Administration is doing everything it can to squash clean energy," Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., said Thursday during a media briefing. "Clean energy is almost always low-cost."
More than 165,000 jobs in the clean energy sector have been lost or stalled as a result of Trump's policies, according to the Climate Power report.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/energy-bills-us-increased-13-trump-office-new/story?id=128346091

Hope this does not continue but it looks like it will. Between the data centers and Trump killing the cheapest and fastest way to meet demand means residential power users will see their rates increase hugely.

Anonymous wrote:

The Data centers are being subsidized by average retail rate payers.

Not true. In fact, the opposite is.

The Data centers are being subsidized by average retail rate payers.

Anonymous wrote:This is because states are trying to regulate AI. When Trump deregulates AI, the clankers will be generating so much energy that they will paying us to take it.

The report pointed to the massive spending bill Trump signed in July, which it claims is "driving up utility costs and destroying jobs by removing cheaper, cleaner energy sources from the grid, all while funding new tax breaks for the oil and gas industries."
Projects that were canceled or delayed since Trump’s election have led to a loss of 24,958.5 megawatts of planned energy generation, which could have powered more than 13.17 million homes, according to the report.

Prices are expected to spike even further, especially as rising energy demands are driven by data centers and extreme heat, the study said.
…
What’s happening behind the scenes is the Trump Administration is doing everything it can to squash clean energy," Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., said Thursday during a media briefing. "Clean energy is almost always low-cost."
More than 165,000 jobs in the clean energy sector have been lost or stalled as a result of Trump's policies, according to the Climate Power report.