Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many relationship forum threads seem to devolve into the notion that “good” men (employed, functional) are rare - and I think we can all agree on that. That being the case, why can’t men just…improve themselves? Dress better, aim higher, work harder, get out there? What is stopping them??

Why can’t women improve themselves? Dress better, aim higher, work harder, get out there? What is stopping them?

Women are constantly doing all of the above. Single women looking for relationships are frequently advised to lose weight, dress better, improve their job/financial prospects, be friendlier, take up a hobby, go to therapy, work on themselves, etc. There are entire cottage industries dedicated to the self-improvement if women.

Men don't do this and it's rarely suggested to them. Single men looking for relationships just listen to podcasts and get red pilled.

Anonymous wrote:Many relationship forum threads seem to devolve into the notion that “good” men (employed, functional) are rare - and I think we can all agree on that. That being the case, why can’t men just…improve themselves? Dress better, aim higher, work harder, get out there? What is stopping them??

Most dysfunctional one in the relationship has all the control.

Power and control move.

Women's self improvement does not increase their partner satisfaction outcomes, in fact it maybe inverse correlated because they naturally have higher standards.

Anonymous wrote:Many relationship forum threads seem to devolve into the notion that “good” men (employed, functional) are rare - and I think we can all agree on that. That being the case, why can’t men just…improve themselves? Dress better, aim higher, work harder, get out there? What is stopping them??

Why can’t women improve themselves? Dress better, aim higher, work harder, get out there? What is stopping them?

Preach!

Better men don't hang around you

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many relationship forum threads seem to devolve into the notion that “good” men (employed, functional) are rare - and I think we can all agree on that. That being the case, why can’t men just…improve themselves? Dress better, aim higher, work harder, get out there? What is stopping them??

Their mothers think they will sink if they does not sign them up for the SAT and scaffold every bit of his life. Now extrapolate 20-30 years when she’s not doing it.

There are rare functional men. But the rest are just not up to our expectations-men are inferior to women. Once you accept this, everything is easier to navigate.

All the men I know are employed and functional.

The world is too peaceful, especially for rich and stable democracies like the United States or Western Europe.

Before the useless men would be filtered out by wars. It's almost like they were meant to be thrown into meatgrinders. Women naturally gravitate towards the top 20% of men and would happily share than deal with the dregs.

I wonder why you and your friends don’t meet many quality men, OP.

Very mysterious.

Easy question. The same sense of entitlement that led them to never excel in the first place keeps them from improving themselves. They feel they are owed something because other people have it.

Posts like this.

Anonymous wrote:Many relationship forum threads seem to devolve into the notion that “good” men (employed, functional) are rare - and I think we can all agree on that. That being the case, why can’t men just…improve themselves? Dress better, aim higher, work harder, get out there? What is stopping them??

Their mothers think they will sink if they does not sign them up for the SAT and scaffold every bit of his life. Now extrapolate 20-30 years when she’s not doing it.

Many relationship forum threads seem to devolve into the notion that “good” men (employed, functional) are rare - and I think we can all agree on that. That being the case, why can’t men just…improve themselves? Dress better, aim higher, work harder, get out there? What is stopping them??