Anonymous
12/10/2025 12:38
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why not age gracefully? It is nature’s way. And, people respect women more as they age. There are some upsides.
Gracefully means with procedures and interventions.
Just doing nothing is aging naturally, not gracefully.
Wrong. It means taking care of yourself, including and up to nutrition, exercise, skincare, and possibly lasers. It does not include fillers or surgery.
Anonymous
12/10/2025 12:25
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Anonymous wrote:Why not age gracefully? It is nature’s way. And, people respect women more as they age. There are some upsides.
Gracefully means with procedures and interventions.
Just doing nothing is aging naturally, not gracefully.
Anonymous
12/10/2025 12:23
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Why not age gracefully? It is nature’s way. And, people respect women more as they age. There are some upsides.
Anonymous
12/10/2025 12:00
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
PP here.
Cost wise: for a good Ulthera treatment, you'd be looking at $4K-5k. It's usually a single treatment but you may need 2 so be prepared to double the cost.
Morpheus would be around $3.5K- $4K for a series of 3 treatments
A syringe of filler is $700- $1000
A deep plane facelift (without eyes or forehead) is $50K and up
Cost wise: for a good Ulthera treatment, you'd be looking at $4K-5k. It's usually a single treatment but you may need 2 so be prepared to double the cost.
Morpheus would be around $3.5K- $4K for a series of 3 treatments
A syringe of filler is $700- $1000
A deep plane facelift (without eyes or forehead) is $50K and up
Anonymous
12/10/2025 11:57
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Nurse here. Non surgical treatments like Morpheus, Ulthera, Sofwave can help if the skin laxity is mild/ moderate. CO2 or Erbium lasers can help as well. Fillers on the cheeks (tastefully done and in moderation) can sometimes help in conjunction with the former treatments. Note that all these non surgical treatments are heavily provider dependent. Many will claim they don't work because they may have had them performed with a provider who is not well experienced in them.
For more moderate/ severe laxity, the solution would be a deep plane facelift.
My advice would be to go to a plastic surgeon who owns a medspa or employs nurses who provide non surgical treatment.
You've probably heard the expression "to a hammer, everything is a nail" . If you go to a derm/ medspa, they will tend to recommend non surgical treatments even if they won't provide you with the best solution because that is all they can provide. If you go to a plastic surgeon who does not do anything non surgical, they might be too quick to recommend surgery.
Hope this helps.
For more moderate/ severe laxity, the solution would be a deep plane facelift.
My advice would be to go to a plastic surgeon who owns a medspa or employs nurses who provide non surgical treatment.
You've probably heard the expression "to a hammer, everything is a nail" . If you go to a derm/ medspa, they will tend to recommend non surgical treatments even if they won't provide you with the best solution because that is all they can provide. If you go to a plastic surgeon who does not do anything non surgical, they might be too quick to recommend surgery.
Hope this helps.
Anonymous
12/10/2025 08:38
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
A lot of it is genetic, unfortunately.
Anonymous
12/10/2025 08:15
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Botox is a good place to start
Anonymous
12/09/2025 21:16
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Anonymous wrote:Fillers can help to a certain extent. I was shocked how much DAO Botox helped as I didn’t expect it. Also look into face taping
^this. DAO Botox and lower face filler made such a difference.
Anonymous
12/09/2025 20:49
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Fillers can help to a certain extent. I was shocked how much DAO Botox helped as I didn’t expect it. Also look into face taping
Anonymous
12/09/2025 20:38
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
I did Sculptra and softwave and saw a good result.
Anonymous
12/09/2025 20:25
Subject: Re:jowls and marionette lines
I’m looking into Sofwave and Ellacor for the same thing. I’m not ready to go for the facelift just yet.
Anonymous
12/09/2025 20:18
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
yeah unfortunately there is no effective nonsurgical option for these specific things.
Anonymous
12/09/2025 19:58
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Deep plane facelift. No fillers.
Anonymous
12/09/2025 19:56
Subject: Re:jowls and marionette lines
I hate to be that person, but the answer is a face and/or neck lift.
Anonymous
12/09/2025 17:46
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
what is the best, most natural way to treat this? And how much in terms of cost?