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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anger over illegal migration helped return Mr. Trump to the presidency, and he has enacted even more aggressive policies than those Mr. Biden first campaigned against.

But a New York Times examination of Mr. Biden’s record found that he and his closest advisers repeatedly rebuffed recommendations that could have addressed the border crisis faster, and eased what became a potent issue for Mr. Trump as he sought to return to the White House and justify the aggressive tactics roiling American cities today.

Former Biden administration officials told The Times that Mr. Biden and his circle of close confidants — including Ron Klain, who was chief of staff during the president’s first two years, Mike Donilon, Jennifer O’Malley Dillon and Anita Dunn — made two crucial errors.

First, they underestimated the scale of migration that was coming. Second, they failed to appreciate the political reaction to that migration — believing that stronger enforcement would alienate Latino and progressive voters, and also that a border surge would not be an important issue to most voters. Those calculations would later prove to be mistaken, with many voters, including Latinos, citing immigration as a reason for supporting Mr. Trump in 2024.

This is the crux of the issue. They cared more about re-election, party power, than what is right by the American people.

Two wrongs still don't make a right. All of the political momentum Biden gifted the GOP has quickly been pissed away by Trump's careless immigration crackdown.

disagree

many many swing voters are happy with the immigration crackdown.

mayorkas and Biden screwed the US voters. now we have Trump and his chaos.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anger over illegal migration helped return Mr. Trump to the presidency, and he has enacted even more aggressive policies than those Mr. Biden first campaigned against.

But a New York Times examination of Mr. Biden’s record found that he and his closest advisers repeatedly rebuffed recommendations that could have addressed the border crisis faster, and eased what became a potent issue for Mr. Trump as he sought to return to the White House and justify the aggressive tactics roiling American cities today.

Former Biden administration officials told The Times that Mr. Biden and his circle of close confidants — including Ron Klain, who was chief of staff during the president’s first two years, Mike Donilon, Jennifer O’Malley Dillon and Anita Dunn — made two crucial errors.

First, they underestimated the scale of migration that was coming. Second, they failed to appreciate the political reaction to that migration — believing that stronger enforcement would alienate Latino and progressive voters, and also that a border surge would not be an important issue to most voters. Those calculations would later prove to be mistaken, with many voters, including Latinos, citing immigration as a reason for supporting Mr. Trump in 2024.

This is the crux of the issue. They cared more about re-election, party power, than what is right by the American people.

Two wrongs still don't make a right. All of the political momentum Biden gifted the GOP has quickly been pissed away by Trump's careless immigration crackdown.

Anonymous wrote:Anger over illegal migration helped return Mr. Trump to the presidency, and he has enacted even more aggressive policies than those Mr. Biden first campaigned against.

But a New York Times examination of Mr. Biden’s record found that he and his closest advisers repeatedly rebuffed recommendations that could have addressed the border crisis faster, and eased what became a potent issue for Mr. Trump as he sought to return to the White House and justify the aggressive tactics roiling American cities today.

Former Biden administration officials told The Times that Mr. Biden and his circle of close confidants — including Ron Klain, who was chief of staff during the president’s first two years, Mike Donilon, Jennifer O’Malley Dillon and Anita Dunn — made two crucial errors.

First, they underestimated the scale of migration that was coming. Second, they failed to appreciate the political reaction to that migration — believing that stronger enforcement would alienate Latino and progressive voters, and also that a border surge would not be an important issue to most voters. Those calculations would later prove to be mistaken, with many voters, including Latinos, citing immigration as a reason for supporting Mr. Trump in 2024.

This is the crux of the issue. They cared more about re-election, party power, than what is right by the American people.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL. How rich, coming from MAGA NYT. That's a historical retelling.

Also, is there any reason this shoddy paper won't focus on the tyrant with dementia who is bankrupting America for his personal gain? Seriously, I'd line the cat box with this garbage, if I had either a subscription or a cat.

https://css.seas.upenn.edu/new-york-times-a-case-study-in-inconsistent-narrative-selection-and-framing-that-tends-to-favor-republicans/

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why are they writing about ANYONE besides the fascist madman-in-chief????????????

Presumably any mainstream media sources do cover the awful deeds of the fascist madman and that's what I've observed. Otherwise, looking back to identify reasons a team, person, or entity lost in competition is the most logical thing to do in order to be more prepared in the future.

Anonymous wrote:LOL. How rich, coming from MAGA NYT. That's a historical retelling.

Also, is there any reason this shoddy paper won't focus on the tyrant with dementia who is bankrupting America for his personal gain? Seriously, I'd line the cat box with this garbage, if I had either a subscription or a cat.

https://css.seas.upenn.edu/new-york-times-a-case-study-in-inconsistent-narrative-selection-and-framing-that-tends-to-favor-republicans/

+1

why are they writing about ANYONE besides the fascist madman-in-chief????????????

LOL. How rich, coming from MAGA NYT. That's a historical retelling.

Also, is there any reason this shoddy paper won't focus on the tyrant with dementia who is bankrupting America for his personal gain? Seriously, I'd line the cat box with this garbage, if I had either a subscription or a cat.

https://css.seas.upenn.edu/new-york-times-a-case-study-in-inconsistent-narrative-selection-and-framing-that-tends-to-favor-republicans/

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Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency.

I stated that Biden needed to get a handle on the border issue as soon as he got elected.

Whoever was advising him on this didn't know how to read the room. I understand Progressives want to protect the most vulnerable, but that is not what is going keep you in power.

I sincerely hope that Dems have learned their lesson and do better in 2026 and beyond. Don't cater to progressives on immigration. That's a losing strategy. Focus on the economy and jobs, not foreigners.

When have you ever observed Dems politicians exhibit careless immigration/border security policies other than Biden during the first two years of his term? Obama and Clinton surely didn't and this is the party of common sense Obama and Clinton leadership. The Dem Party will return to Obama/Bush/Clinton border policy once they return to power in 2028- guaranteed.

Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency.

I stated that Biden needed to get a handle on the border issue as soon as he got elected.

Whoever was advising him on this didn't know how to read the room. I understand Progressives want to protect the most vulnerable, but that is not what is going keep you in power.

I sincerely hope that Dems have learned their lesson and do better in 2026 and beyond. Don't cater to progressives on immigration. That's a losing strategy. Focus on the economy and jobs, not foreigners.

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Anonymous wrote:Two months into his term, Mr. Biden assigned Vice President Kamala Harris with reducing illegal migration, especially from Central America, by working on the “root causes” of that migration.

What did she do? anyone?

Biden was president. Harris was not. Biden was the Chief Executive who signed off on executive orders that reversed many of the band-aid immigration/southern border orders that were in place to stem the flow of new arrivals. Harris was not. Harris never had the power to do anything substantive. Misplaced blame.

I agree Biden is to blame, primarily. It was his policies.
But, I doubt you would give the same grace to any of the Trump appointees if they were to fail as miserably at their assignment as Kamala Harris did.

A VP doesn't have the same specified role as other cabinet members do, dimwit. I don't blame any of Trump's failures on Pence or Vance and never have.

The NYT is simply reporting what the majority of Americans knew for 4 long years.
He f'ed up. Intentionally.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two months into his term, Mr. Biden assigned Vice President Kamala Harris with reducing illegal migration, especially from Central America, by working on the “root causes” of that migration.

What did she do? anyone?

Biden was president. Harris was not. Biden was the Chief Executive who signed off on executive orders that reversed many of the band-aid immigration/southern border orders that were in place to stem the flow of new arrivals. Harris was not. Harris never had the power to do anything substantive. Misplaced blame.

I agree Biden is to blame, primarily. It was his policies.
But, I doubt you would give the same grace to any of the Trump appointees if they were to fail as miserably at their assignment as Kamala Harris did.

Anonymous wrote:Two months into his term, Mr. Biden assigned Vice President Kamala Harris with reducing illegal migration, especially from Central America, by working on the “root causes” of that migration.

What did she do? anyone?

Biden was president. Harris was not. Biden was the Chief Executive who signed off on executive orders that reversed many of the band-aid immigration/southern border orders that were in place to stem the flow of new arrivals. Harris was not. Harris never had the power to do anything substantive. Misplaced blame.

Two months into his term, Mr. Biden assigned Vice President Kamala Harris with reducing illegal migration, especially from Central America, by working on the “root causes” of that migration.

What did she do? anyone?

Anger over illegal migration helped return Mr. Trump to the presidency, and he has enacted even more aggressive policies than those Mr. Biden first campaigned against.

But a New York Times examination of Mr. Biden’s record found that he and his closest advisers repeatedly rebuffed recommendations that could have addressed the border crisis faster, and eased what became a potent issue for Mr. Trump as he sought to return to the White House and justify the aggressive tactics roiling American cities today.

Former Biden administration officials told The Times that Mr. Biden and his circle of close confidants — including Ron Klain, who was chief of staff during the president’s first two years, Mike Donilon, Jennifer O’Malley Dillon and Anita Dunn — made two crucial errors.

First, they underestimated the scale of migration that was coming. Second, they failed to appreciate the political reaction to that migration — believing that stronger enforcement would alienate Latino and progressive voters, and also that a border surge would not be an important issue to most voters. Those calculations would later prove to be mistaken, with many voters, including Latinos, citing immigration as a reason for supporting Mr. Trump in 2024.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/07/us/politics/biden-immigration-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.7E8.jJYA.fXVFzKZMYaFW&smid=url-share

Great Article with details on how Democrats lost in 2024 due to policy failures on immigration , pushed by progressives in the party.

Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency.
Some aides feared that closing the border would be overturned by the courts. Others said that principles mattered. “It was truly believed — deeply, by many, including the president — that that was not in keeping with our values,” said Ms. Jacobson, the former border czar.

Three weeks after closing the border, the president faced off against Mr. Trump in a debate at CNN’s Atlanta studios. Asked why voters should trust him to solve the crisis, Mr. Biden flubbed it.

“What I’ve done — since I’ve changed the law, what’s happened?” said Mr. Biden, who had not changed the law. “I’ve changed it in a way that now you’re in a situation where there are 40 percent fewer people coming across the border illegally.”

Mr. Biden went on: “I’m going to continue to move until we get the total ban on the … the total initiative relative to what we’re going to do with more Border Patrol and more asylum officers.”

“I really don’t know what he said at the end of that sentence,” Mr. Trump responded. “I don’t think he knows what he said either.”

Within a month, Mr. Biden left the race.