Anonymous
Post 12/06/2025 12:51     Subject: What’s the different between upper middle class and upper class?

Anonymous wrote:Upper middle class earn a nice income $250k+ from working.

Upper class have typical annual investment returns of $300k+ and they likely work additionally.

Im in the second category, even though we have vacationed in Hawaii (no condo) and our cleaning lady comes only biweekly.


Is 300k in investments and an office job really upper class nowadays?
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2025 12:50     Subject: What’s the different between upper middle class and upper class?

Upper middle class earn a nice income $250k+ from working.

Upper class have typical annual investment returns of $300k+ and they likely work additionally.

Im in the second category, even though we have vacationed in Hawaii (no condo) and our cleaning lady comes only biweekly.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2025 12:24     Subject: What’s the different between upper middle class and upper class?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Upper middle class goes to Hawaii. Upper class has a condo in Hawaii.

Upper middle either lives in a great school district or sends their kids to private school. Upper class does boarding school.

Upper middle class has a cleaning lady once or twice a week. Upper class has a housekeeper.


Many US boarding schools have close to 50% on significant financial aid, much like top colleges.

Upper class is now Swiss boarding schools.


Top colleges and boarding schools are like a U-shaped distribution. Kids on substantial Financial Aid and kids who are very well-off.

Very few people in the middle.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2025 12:22     Subject: What’s the different between upper middle class and upper class?

Anonymous wrote:Upper middle has at least some income through a w-2 and actually needs to work to maintain their lifestyle/savings.

Upper class can fully sustain themselves with investments.


Plenty of FIRE people “sustain themselves with investments.” But they are living on $100k a year in a LCOL area. That doesn’t make them upper class.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2025 08:59     Subject: What’s the different between upper middle class and upper class?

Anonymous wrote:Upper middle has at least some income through a w-2 and actually needs to work to maintain their lifestyle/savings.

Upper class can fully sustain themselves with investments.


This.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2025 08:55     Subject: What’s the different between upper middle class and upper class?

Anonymous wrote:Upper middle class goes to Hawaii. Upper class has a condo in Hawaii.

Upper middle either lives in a great school district or sends their kids to private school. Upper class does boarding school.

Upper middle class has a cleaning lady once or twice a week. Upper class has a housekeeper.


Many US boarding schools have close to 50% on significant financial aid, much like top colleges.

Upper class is now Swiss boarding schools.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2025 08:11     Subject: What’s the different between upper middle class and upper class?

Upper middle class have jobs (working wealthy). Upper class chair boards of nonprofits for work.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2025 07:50     Subject: What’s the different between upper middle class and upper class?

One has to work and one doesn’t.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2025 07:46     Subject: What’s the different between upper middle class and upper class?

Upper middle has at least some income through a w-2 and actually needs to work to maintain their lifestyle/savings.

Upper class can fully sustain themselves with investments.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2025 07:00     Subject: What’s the different between upper middle class and upper class?

One is income based the other is an antiquated societal class system based purely on genealogy and breeding.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2025 06:50     Subject: What’s the different between upper middle class and upper class?

Class doesn’t mean much in the US.

What you are really asking is the difference between being a high earner and being wealthy.

If you make a bunch of money but also have a mortgage and are saving for college/retirement/etc then you are upper middle class.

If you have a lot of money in investments and can live comfortably off the income from said money without drawing it down then you are wealthy.

Most upper middle class people aspire to become wealthy but obviously not all succeed.

Anonymous
Post 12/06/2025 04:29     Subject: What’s the different between upper middle class and upper class?

Upper middle class the staff show up to the house for work. Upper class the staff live on the estate grounds.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2025 03:44     Subject: What’s the different between upper middle class and upper class?

It depends on how much money you have in the bank/investments. Just because you have a condo in Hawaii, you could still be highly leveraged.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2025 01:51     Subject: What’s the different between upper middle class and upper class?

Upper middle class goes to Hawaii. Upper class has a condo in Hawaii.

Upper middle either lives in a great school district or sends their kids to private school. Upper class does boarding school.

Upper middle class has a cleaning lady once or twice a week. Upper class has a housekeeper.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2025 01:21     Subject: What’s the different between upper middle class and upper class?

What are the biggest differences in lifestyle?