Anonymous
12/06/2025 06:04
Subject: Re:Love paying to spectate at a champs meet and they have no scoreboard running
Anonymous wrote:People love to complain about Winter Classic in particular. I find it really strange.
1. It is not the custom in PVS that host clubs provide all the timers. Its literally in the meet announcement- "Participating clubs are requested to provide timers in proportion to their entries. One timer is
requested for each 25 entries.
● Volunteer Sign-Up Form will be distributed to participating teams. " This is pretty typical language for PVS meets. If you don't like it- don't participate.
2. GMU uses the gen 7 timing system, it is built into the pool. In some ways it works better, but it is also glitchy. The built into the pool part means that facilities staff has to get involved whenever it doesn't work.
3. The scoreboard is run by the GMU computer- it's not run from the tables. The table literally takes a thumb drive to the GMU office and has them load the scoreboard.
4. GMU has a lot to offer as a venue, and also some limitations. It's not like there is competition to host meets like this, pools are hard to come by.
5. I have no idea whether or not the Marlins 'make money' on the meet. But, as is true for virtually all meets, there is a lot of stuff they have no control over. I know they have really strong officials running the dry side this year (I personally am not one of them.)
And it’s not custom in PVS to charge a spectator fee. Yet this meet does.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 23:08
Subject: Love paying to spectate at a champs meet and they have no scoreboard running
Swim parents are the worst
Anonymous
12/05/2025 20:30
Subject: Re:Love paying to spectate at a champs meet and they have no scoreboard running
People love to complain about Winter Classic in particular. I find it really strange.
1. It is not the custom in PVS that host clubs provide all the timers. Its literally in the meet announcement- "Participating clubs are requested to provide timers in proportion to their entries. One timer is
requested for each 25 entries.
● Volunteer Sign-Up Form will be distributed to participating teams. " This is pretty typical language for PVS meets. If you don't like it- don't participate.
2. GMU uses the gen 7 timing system, it is built into the pool. In some ways it works better, but it is also glitchy. The built into the pool part means that facilities staff has to get involved whenever it doesn't work.
3. The scoreboard is run by the GMU computer- it's not run from the tables. The table literally takes a thumb drive to the GMU office and has them load the scoreboard.
4. GMU has a lot to offer as a venue, and also some limitations. It's not like there is competition to host meets like this, pools are hard to come by.
5. I have no idea whether or not the Marlins 'make money' on the meet. But, as is true for virtually all meets, there is a lot of stuff they have no control over. I know they have really strong officials running the dry side this year (I personally am not one of them.)
1. It is not the custom in PVS that host clubs provide all the timers. Its literally in the meet announcement- "Participating clubs are requested to provide timers in proportion to their entries. One timer is
requested for each 25 entries.
● Volunteer Sign-Up Form will be distributed to participating teams. " This is pretty typical language for PVS meets. If you don't like it- don't participate.
2. GMU uses the gen 7 timing system, it is built into the pool. In some ways it works better, but it is also glitchy. The built into the pool part means that facilities staff has to get involved whenever it doesn't work.
3. The scoreboard is run by the GMU computer- it's not run from the tables. The table literally takes a thumb drive to the GMU office and has them load the scoreboard.
4. GMU has a lot to offer as a venue, and also some limitations. It's not like there is competition to host meets like this, pools are hard to come by.
5. I have no idea whether or not the Marlins 'make money' on the meet. But, as is true for virtually all meets, there is a lot of stuff they have no control over. I know they have really strong officials running the dry side this year (I personally am not one of them.)
Anonymous
12/05/2025 19:07
Subject: Love paying to spectate at a champs meet and they have no scoreboard running
GMU did have to restart a computer to get the girls scoreboard to start working. It wasn't an issue the Marlins had any control over.
There were no shows (swimmers and their volunteer parents) during the first session today.
There were no shows (swimmers and their volunteer parents) during the first session today.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 15:57
Subject: Love paying to spectate at a champs meet and they have no scoreboard running
The signup was full before the meet but multiple timers did not show up - that’s why they were asking for timers today.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s a Marlins meet- all about the money and cheap as possible when it comes to return. Unfortunate.
I would agree on that. We are out of town and for all the fees involved they still were requesting timers from the stands. Never have I been to a meet like this where the host team doesn't supply all the timers since they are also making all the money. It is required of our club and I thought the reason they get 120 automatic swimmer for entry.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 15:22
Subject: Love paying to spectate at a champs meet and they have no scoreboard running
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Every.single.year
BTW - where does the spectator fee go? Bag tags? Not sure why there are meet entry fees, spectator fees, and food donations. Stop nickel and diming.
It goes to the probable 50k it costs to rent the pool + outfitting for some volunteers and officials as well as meet supplies like food (which was majorly purchased they asked for small donations) and other needs to run the meet
The Marlins are making money here.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 15:21
Subject: Love paying to spectate at a champs meet and they have no scoreboard running
Anonymous wrote:It’s a Marlins meet- all about the money and cheap as possible when it comes to return. Unfortunate.
I would agree on that. We are out of town and for all the fees involved they still were requesting timers from the stands. Never have I been to a meet like this where the host team doesn't supply all the timers since they are also making all the money. It is required of our club and I thought the reason they get 120 automatic swimmer for entry.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 15:19
Subject: Love paying to spectate at a champs meet and they have no scoreboard running
Anonymous wrote:Every.single.year
BTW - where does the spectator fee go? Bag tags? Not sure why there are meet entry fees, spectator fees, and food donations. Stop nickel and diming.
I don't think they get bag tags or caps.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 15:01
Subject: Love paying to spectate at a champs meet and they have no scoreboard running
Anonymous wrote:Every.single.year
BTW - where does the spectator fee go? Bag tags? Not sure why there are meet entry fees, spectator fees, and food donations. Stop nickel and diming.
It goes to the probable 50k it costs to rent the pool + outfitting for some volunteers and officials as well as meet supplies like food (which was majorly purchased they asked for small donations) and other needs to run the meet
Anonymous
12/05/2025 13:45
Subject: Love paying to spectate at a champs meet and they have no scoreboard running
It’s a Marlins meet- all about the money and cheap as possible when it comes to return. Unfortunate.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 12:10
Subject: Love paying to spectate at a champs meet and they have no scoreboard running
Were you volunteering at the meet to help it run smoothly? I was. Don’t know why we need to drag this meet every year. The officials were working diligently to fix everything.
Anonymous wrote:Why does Winter Classic always feel like amateur hour? Every time they are here it is the same issues that they blame on the venue but yet other teams have no problem. Big sigh.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 11:47
Subject: Love paying to spectate at a champs meet and they have no scoreboard running
Anonymous wrote:Something is also wrong with the touchpads in The girls pool.
Just watched a fly event where lane six was many feet ahead and the time went to lane five. Crazy stuff.
Respectfully, are you sure you didn’t invert the order of the lanes? (i.e., lane one is at the opposite end from where you thought) again, honest question
Anonymous
12/05/2025 10:54
Subject: Love paying to spectate at a champs meet and they have no scoreboard running
Every.single.year
BTW - where does the spectator fee go? Bag tags? Not sure why there are meet entry fees, spectator fees, and food donations. Stop nickel and diming.
BTW - where does the spectator fee go? Bag tags? Not sure why there are meet entry fees, spectator fees, and food donations. Stop nickel and diming.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 09:10
Subject: Love paying to spectate at a champs meet and they have no scoreboard running
Something is also wrong with the touchpads in The girls pool.
Just watched a fly event where lane six was many feet ahead and the time went to lane five. Crazy stuff.
Just watched a fly event where lane six was many feet ahead and the time went to lane five. Crazy stuff.
Anonymous
12/05/2025 08:53
Subject: Love paying to spectate at a champs meet and they have no scoreboard running
Why does Winter Classic always feel like amateur hour? Every time they are here it is the same issues that they blame on the venue but yet other teams have no problem. Big sigh.