Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 19:20     Subject: Met with a family member who is a professor and it let us to dropping several potential colleges from consideration

NAME THE COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 19:03     Subject: Met with a family member who is a professor and it let us to dropping several potential colleges from consideration

So professors, not students, are the problem on campus these days? Ok, well, at least a new spin on the trouble with college.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 19:01     Subject: Met with a family member who is a professor and it let us to dropping several potential colleges from consideration

OP is so stupid. I'm not even irritated by her nonsensical post. It made me laugh it was so ridiculous.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 18:58     Subject: Met with a family member who is a professor and it let us to dropping several potential colleges from consideration

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We met with a family member who is a professor at a university (~T100 range) over the Thanksgiving break. We also got to meet with a few other professors who were friends of the family member.

We are quite shocked by what we heard about some of the changes taking place over the last couple of years. This is especially evident in specific majors and the combination of AI use by students, administrative overhead on professors, composition of student body and recent cuts have dramatically impacted these majors. It is just such a sad situation. Professors who were totally checked out - some schedule classes on two back to back days so they are pretty free 5 days a week, giving up on tests, professors project questions on a screen and students select answers on their phones, etc. What got us even more concerned is that the professors were positive that a significant portion of these students in these majors would not be employed and they seem powerless to help. They have already given up.

We dropped several schools from consideration based on the data we were able to gather. This is not across the board, many of these schools have majors where this is not an issue.

Do your due diligence.


What "data" are you referring to? You talked to a handful of people. What, exactly, is your concern? You didn't collect any "data."

Faculty have always had teaching loads that only involved teaching on a couple of days. That's not new.

AI is newish. But it's not going to replace jobs. People who can work with AI are going to replace jobs. If you're concerned about AI, college and university education will be even MORE important in the future than it is now because employers are going to be placing premiums on critical thinking. The best majors are going to be liberal arts, not STEM.

Tests are moving back to blue book.

I also don't understand what you mean by "we dropped several schools from consideration." What is this "we" shit. Are you the applicant? Or are you some parent who is overly invested?

I have a recent college graduate fully employed in Manhattan and progressing steadily in her career. I have another who is a junior and working hard and thriving. None of what you describe aligns with their experiences.

So, what, exactly, are you prattling on about? I can't even tell from your post what your concerns are.


I agree that college and university education will be more important because of critical thinking skills. However, I believe that both STEM and Liberal Arts education will be important and colleges will need to teach both.

I also believe that K-12 students who did not get an academically rigorous education will fall behind if parents are not involved and they do not supplement.



Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 18:58     Subject: Met with a family member who is a professor and it let us to dropping several potential colleges from consideration

Seriously way to bury the lede - what colleges did you drop (and why)?
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 18:58     Subject: Met with a family member who is a professor and it let us to dropping several potential colleges from consideration

Anonymous wrote:Only believing this if you list the unis and colleges ...


+1

My kids are working hard writing papers, taking exams/quizzes, doing labs, etc. My DD is a poly sci major and writes ALL THE TIME. My DS is a biochem major and is ALWAYS STUDYING.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 18:53     Subject: Met with a family member who is a professor and it let us to dropping several potential colleges from consideration

Only believing this if you list the unis and colleges ...
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 18:07     Subject: Met with a family member who is a professor and it let us to dropping several potential colleges from consideration

Anonymous wrote:I'm a professor too. You are somewhat accurate in what you describe but so much of that is irrelevant or without context. Scheduling classes two days per week? You realize teaching is contractually about 40-50% of the job, right? When are they supposed to do their other work? Answering questions on a phone? That's Kahoot. It's fun and not bad at all. AI, budget cuts, that's across the board. Unavoidable.

Chill.

+1. I'm a professor, too, and I agree with this PP.
When I talk with friends and family who have children applying to colleges, where I find my value is in informing the parents that 1) faculty at research universities are not incentivized to teach undergraduates, but rather to publish research. Good teaching at these well-known schools is by accident, not by design; 2) SLACs are where you will find faculty incentivized for strong undergraduate teaching; 3) do not allow your impression of your individual tour guide to color the entire college. I have observed so many college tours in my 20+ years of college teaching, and tour guides leave strong impressions, good and bad, when they should not. Make sure your kid understands this.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 17:58     Subject: Met with a family member who is a professor and it let us to dropping several potential colleges from consideration

Anonymous wrote:We met with a family member who is a professor at a university (~T100 range) over the Thanksgiving break. We also got to meet with a few other professors who were friends of the family member.

We are quite shocked by what we heard about some of the changes taking place over the last couple of years. This is especially evident in specific majors and the combination of AI use by students, administrative overhead on professors, composition of student body and recent cuts have dramatically impacted these majors. It is just such a sad situation. Professors who were totally checked out - some schedule classes on two back to back days so they are pretty free 5 days a week, giving up on tests, professors project questions on a screen and students select answers on their phones, etc. What got us even more concerned is that the professors were positive that a significant portion of these students in these majors would not be employed and they seem powerless to help. They have already given up.

We dropped several schools from consideration based on the data we were able to gather. This is not across the board, many of these schools have majors where this is not an issue.

Do your due diligence.


Lol. This isn't "checked out," lol, this is just academia. Do you know what a professor is? Their primary job isn't the teaching of your kids -- it's scholarship. They aren't "pretty much free," they are conducting research and publishing.

And projecting questions on a screen and having students use their phones to answer it as a poll allows everyone to answer, not just one person. It's called using tech for engagement, and it actually takes more prep than just wandering into the room and expounding and asking the occasional question of the room.

Whether or not students will end up "employed" is a whole other matter, but my short answer (which is, admittedly, quite arguable) is that college isn't, or at least shouldn't be, trade school.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 17:50     Subject: Met with a family member who is a professor and it let us to dropping several potential colleges from consideration

what colleges did you drop?
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 17:47     Subject: Met with a family member who is a professor and it let us to dropping several potential colleges from consideration

I'm a professor too. You are somewhat accurate in what you describe but so much of that is irrelevant or without context. Scheduling classes two days per week? You realize teaching is contractually about 40-50% of the job, right? When are they supposed to do their other work? Answering questions on a phone? That's Kahoot. It's fun and not bad at all. AI, budget cuts, that's across the board. Unavoidable.

Chill.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 17:39     Subject: Met with a family member who is a professor and it let us to dropping several potential colleges from consideration

Anonymous wrote:We met with a family member who is a professor at a university (~T100 range) over the Thanksgiving break. We also got to meet with a few other professors who were friends of the family member.

We are quite shocked by what we heard about some of the changes taking place over the last couple of years. This is especially evident in specific majors and the combination of AI use by students, administrative overhead on professors, composition of student body and recent cuts have dramatically impacted these majors. It is just such a sad situation. Professors who were totally checked out - some schedule classes on two back to back days so they are pretty free 5 days a week, giving up on tests, professors project questions on a screen and students select answers on their phones, etc. What got us even more concerned is that the professors were positive that a significant portion of these students in these majors would not be employed and they seem powerless to help. They have already given up.

We dropped several schools from consideration based on the data we were able to gather. This is not across the board, many of these schools have majors where this is not an issue.

Do your due diligence.


What "data" are you referring to? You talked to a handful of people. What, exactly, is your concern? You didn't collect any "data."

Faculty have always had teaching loads that only involved teaching on a couple of days. That's not new.

AI is newish. But it's not going to replace jobs. People who can work with AI are going to replace jobs. If you're concerned about AI, college and university education will be even MORE important in the future than it is now because employers are going to be placing premiums on critical thinking. The best majors are going to be liberal arts, not STEM.

Tests are moving back to blue book.

I also don't understand what you mean by "we dropped several schools from consideration." What is this "we" shit. Are you the applicant? Or are you some parent who is overly invested?

I have a recent college graduate fully employed in Manhattan and progressing steadily in her career. I have another who is a junior and working hard and thriving. None of what you describe aligns with their experiences.

So, what, exactly, are you prattling on about? I can't even tell from your post what your concerns are.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 17:33     Subject: Met with a family member who is a professor and it let us to dropping several potential colleges from consideration

This is like anti vaxxers who "do their own research" but can never list data or a source.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 17:31     Subject: Met with a family member who is a professor and it let us to dropping several potential colleges from consideration

Um, you didn't "do you due diligence " - you lucked into having a relative who's a college professor! Just spill what you were told about which schools.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 17:30     Subject: Met with a family member who is a professor and it let us to dropping several potential colleges from consideration

We met with a family member who is a professor at a university (~T100 range) over the Thanksgiving break. We also got to meet with a few other professors who were friends of the family member.

We are quite shocked by what we heard about some of the changes taking place over the last couple of years. This is especially evident in specific majors and the combination of AI use by students, administrative overhead on professors, composition of student body and recent cuts have dramatically impacted these majors. It is just such a sad situation. Professors who were totally checked out - some schedule classes on two back to back days so they are pretty free 5 days a week, giving up on tests, professors project questions on a screen and students select answers on their phones, etc. What got us even more concerned is that the professors were positive that a significant portion of these students in these majors would not be employed and they seem powerless to help. They have already given up.

We dropped several schools from consideration based on the data we were able to gather. This is not across the board, many of these schools have majors where this is not an issue.

Do your due diligence.