Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 12:40     Subject: Was the shutdown end strategically planned by democrats?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Uh, some of the Dems were very distraught while discussing it on IG. Tim Miller isn't a Democrat, and sometimes it's going to show.


They say if you aren't attractive enough to make it in acting to go into politics. They are actors acting. They are not distraught. They have the No vote on their record that they needed, but no longer have people pressuring them to end the shutdown AND they get to continue dangling the healthcare issue to motivate their voters. This is exactly what they all wanted, and anyone telling you otherwise is lying to you.


you’re utterly ridiculous if you think some of these members don’t care.


And you're utterly ridiculous to act as though unfettered access to money and power only corrupts Republicans. There's a reason these folks cling to office until they literally keel over and die.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 12:36     Subject: Was the shutdown end strategically planned by democrats?
It was orchestrated. They’ve done a poor job on the talking circuit since it happened. They should be claiming victory. They made Rs own the premium increases.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 12:35     Subject: Was the shutdown end strategically planned by democrats?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tim Miller said they are not as upset in private as they let on on social media and those who voted yes like Tim Kaine were taking one for the team. They already got all they could get from the shutdown and now it's time for Epstein files.

This seems likely. For as long as they've been my senators Mark Warner and Tim Kaine have been in lockstep on just about every issue. But Warner is up for re-election in 2026 while Kaine isn't up until 2030.


very insightful
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 12:34     Subject: Was the shutdown end strategically planned by democrats?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Uh, some of the Dems were very distraught while discussing it on IG. Tim Miller isn't a Democrat, and sometimes it's going to show.


They say if you aren't attractive enough to make it in acting to go into politics. They are actors acting. They are not distraught. They have the No vote on their record that they needed, but no longer have people pressuring them to end the shutdown AND they get to continue dangling the healthcare issue to motivate their voters. This is exactly what they all wanted, and anyone telling you otherwise is lying to you.


you’re utterly ridiculous if you think some of these members don’t care.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 12:33     Subject: Was the shutdown end strategically planned by democrats?
Anonymous wrote:Democrats frequently use a rotating villain tactic. So yes, this was strategically orchestrated. I'm shocked so many people seem to be grasping that they constantly play these political games using people as leverage for the very first time. Hopefully this realization helps people see these games for what they are more frequently in the future.

We need to elect people interested in governing, who will prioritize the needs of the people they are supposed to represent, NOT prioritizing their next campaign and the companies and wealthy donors funding it.

The fact that Republican politicians are cruel liars taking their voters for a ride does not inherently make the Democrats moral angels always looking out for us. ALL of the current crop of politicians in power are captured and corrupted and need to go.


Believe you show up on many threads and always push this line. I’m sorry - they are not all captured, not all corrupt, and not all need to go. There’s a lot of crap in a privately-financed campaign system and the Dems have pushed a bill to transform it, but until that happens, it is what it is and work like hell for those who will make a change.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 12:22     Subject: Re:Was the shutdown end strategically planned by democrats?
Anonymous wrote:Of course it was. And remember - sometimes when you win you lose, and when you lose, you win.


Looked like the votes to open were coming from reps who planned to retire. Can see why they would do it -.to help feds and SNAP and also get the Epstein files out there.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 12:10     Subject: Was the shutdown end strategically planned by democrats?
Anonymous wrote:Uh, some of the Dems were very distraught while discussing it on IG. Tim Miller isn't a Democrat, and sometimes it's going to show.


They say if you aren't attractive enough to make it in acting to go into politics. They are actors acting. They are not distraught. They have the No vote on their record that they needed, but no longer have people pressuring them to end the shutdown AND they get to continue dangling the healthcare issue to motivate their voters. This is exactly what they all wanted, and anyone telling you otherwise is lying to you.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 12:06     Subject: Was the shutdown end strategically planned by democrats?
Democrats frequently use a rotating villain tactic. So yes, this was strategically orchestrated. I'm shocked so many people seem to be grasping that they constantly play these political games using people as leverage for the very first time. Hopefully this realization helps people see these games for what they are more frequently in the future.

We need to elect people interested in governing, who will prioritize the needs of the people they are supposed to represent, NOT prioritizing their next campaign and the companies and wealthy donors funding it.

The fact that Republican politicians are cruel liars taking their voters for a ride does not inherently make the Democrats moral angels always looking out for us. ALL of the current crop of politicians in power are captured and corrupted and need to go.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 12:01     Subject: Was the shutdown end strategically planned by democrats?
Uh, some of the Dems were very distraught while discussing it on IG. Tim Miller isn't a Democrat, and sometimes it's going to show.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 12:00     Subject: Was the shutdown end strategically planned by democrats?
Of course it was. It is called failure theater, and Mitch McConnell was the master of it.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 11:59     Subject: Re:Was the shutdown end strategically planned by democrats?
Of course it was. And remember - sometimes when you win you lose, and when you lose, you win.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 11:55     Subject: Was the shutdown end strategically planned by democrats?
Anonymous wrote:Tim Miller said they are not as upset in private as they let on on social media and those who voted yes like Tim Kaine were taking one for the team. They already got all they could get from the shutdown and now it's time for Epstein files.

This seems likely. For as long as they've been my senators Mark Warner and Tim Kaine have been in lockstep on just about every issue. But Warner is up for re-election in 2026 while Kaine isn't up until 2030.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 11:49     Subject: Was the shutdown end strategically planned by democrats?
Anonymous wrote:Democrats don’t have power. As Miller also sad, it is hard to play chicken when your opponent wants to crash. The Dems got what they could.


Said, not sad.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 11:48     Subject: Was the shutdown end strategically planned by democrats?
Democrats don’t have power. As Miller also sad, it is hard to play chicken when your opponent wants to crash. The Dems got what they could.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2025 11:46     Subject: Was the shutdown end strategically planned by democrats?
Tim Miller said they are not as upset in private as they let on on social media and those who voted yes like Tim Kaine were taking one for the team. They already got all they could get from the shutdown and now it's time for Epstein files.