Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 12:06     Subject: AP score reporting to t20 schools 4s?

Sara's gimmick it's saying ridiculous things so that people think she has some secret knowledge.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 12:04     Subject: AP score reporting to t20 schools 4s?

depends.

are there AP classes on your transcript? then yes, submit them.

if you're in a private school and self-studied on your own --

- Submit all 5s to all schools
- Submit a mix if it's a lopsided mix like five 5s and one 4 to all schools.
- Submit equal mix of 4s and 5s to school ranked 5-20 but not 1-5
- Submit only 4s nowhere.

This is from our counselor. private feeder. a lot of this depends on the context of your HS
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 12:04     Subject: AP score reporting to t20 schools 4s?

If you don't report they know it's a 2.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 12:01     Subject: AP score reporting to t20 schools 4s?

My kid had one 5, one 3, the rest 4s at application time and reported all but the 3.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 11:58     Subject: Re:AP score reporting to t20 schools 4s?

Anonymous wrote:What if all 4s and only one 5 to an ivy?

hw is the sat?
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 11:45     Subject: Re:AP score reporting to t20 schools 4s?

What if all 4s and only one 5 to an ivy?
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 08:05     Subject: AP score reporting to t20 schools 4s?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most college counselors (private/paid and school counselors) advise to report all 4s and 5s. The exception is Sara Harberson. She says even one 4 can be the basis for rejection at a highly selective school. It is up to you to decide what you think. She worked in admissions pre-covid, so things have likely changed since when she worked at Penn, but who knows? Many counselors are saying their clients are getting into top schools reporting lots of 4s and even a 3 here and there. YMMV


I was in AN and while she was helpful in many ways, I think she is wrong about this. Please submit those 4’s and 5’s to top schools.


Agreed. This is just a reflection of the fact that she has been out of the admissions office long enough that some of her advice to be outdated. DC didn’t follow the AP reporting advice, and also listed a competitive entry summer program (essays, grades, recommendations required) on their application even though we paid for the program.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 06:53     Subject: AP score reporting to t20 schools 4s?

Anonymous wrote:Most college counselors (private/paid and school counselors) advise to report all 4s and 5s. The exception is Sara Harberson. She says even one 4 can be the basis for rejection at a highly selective school. It is up to you to decide what you think. She worked in admissions pre-covid, so things have likely changed since when she worked at Penn, but who knows? Many counselors are saying their clients are getting into top schools reporting lots of 4s and even a 3 here and there. YMMV


I was in AN and while she was helpful in many ways, I think she is wrong about this. Please submit those 4’s and 5’s to top schools.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 06:45     Subject: AP score reporting to t20 schools 4s?

How many total AP scores are you reporting and what’s the test score? I think you need to consider the whole package together. If your kid is test optional and is only submitting 4s I think I would pause for T20
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 06:30     Subject: AP score reporting to t20 schools 4s?

Anonymous wrote:Most college counselors (private/paid and school counselors) advise to report all 4s and 5s. The exception is Sara Harberson. She says even one 4 can be the basis for rejection at a highly selective school. It is up to you to decide what you think. She worked in admissions pre-covid, so things have likely changed since when she worked at Penn, but who knows? Many counselors are saying their clients are getting into top schools reporting lots of 4s and even a 3 here and there. YMMV


Everything Sara says is bizarre. I would do the opposite of everything she advises honestly. We reported all our fours to top schools and exposed daughter's race on her essays.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 05:31     Subject: AP score reporting to t20 schools 4s?

Yes
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 05:23     Subject: AP score reporting to t20 schools 4s?

Most college counselors (private/paid and school counselors) advise to report all 4s and 5s. The exception is Sara Harberson. She says even one 4 can be the basis for rejection at a highly selective school. It is up to you to decide what you think. She worked in admissions pre-covid, so things have likely changed since when she worked at Penn, but who knows? Many counselors are saying their clients are getting into top schools reporting lots of 4s and even a 3 here and there. YMMV
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 05:23     Subject: AP score reporting to t20 schools 4s?

Probably yes unless it’s for your child’s intended major and other scores indicate far more talent in that subject…
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 05:17     Subject: AP score reporting to t20 schools 4s?

DC did report all scores, including a 4.
Anonymous
Post 11/02/2025 05:15     Subject: AP score reporting to t20 schools 4s?

Would you report 4s?