Anonymous wrote:Anything published in 2017 isn't relevant in 2025. There have been so many changes since then.

Yes, I'm sure that it's all equal now.

Seriously, the numbers change over the decades, so we don't know if the top 1% are 15 times as likely as average or 17 times or 13 times to go to a specific school, but I'm sure they are still hugely overrepresented.

This data is 8 years old (2017)!

Oligarchs everywhere?

Yr 2012 has Brown/ UPenn/Duke /Yale etc had ~ 20% students from 99 percentile networth households ( >~10 mil )
About 10 yr hence one could surmise that this number is north of 30% ( given panoply of crapola disguised as EC/ legacy/ dubious sporting abilities)
One perhaps could extrapolate that today ,>95 percentile household is north of 40- 50 % of the student body (+5 mil net worth)

We know that typ 50% of the class is full pay ( some at a lower end of networth are stretching to be full pay)

So if you are not full pay and you have some blemishes on your credentials ECwise ( it’s a loophole for the schools to take advantage of), odds are your kid will not make it to T20 let alone T10…

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Anonymous wrote:makes sense but chicago is surprising. everyone claiming they cater to full pay private school kids on here

hopkins, mit, cornell with good diversity

I am not surprised about UChicago because I had looked at the numbers before. But there are certainly UChicago haters who like to repeat the falsehood. By the way, the median household income at UChicago is also significantly lower than most other T10 schools.

Have to give credit to Chicago.

Median family income $134,500
only 58% in top20% net worth.

Poorman's Harvard

Who wants to go to college with the poors.

Anything published in 2017 isn't relevant in 2025. There have been so many changes since then.

Anonymous wrote:makes sense but chicago is surprising. everyone claiming they cater to full pay private school kids on here

hopkins, mit, cornell with good diversity

I am not surprised about UChicago because I had looked at the numbers before. But there are certainly UChicago haters who like to repeat the falsehood. By the way, the median household income at UChicago is also significantly lower than most other T10 schools.

Basically a map for white affirmative action.

MIT and JHU do not consider legacy, of course they are getting middle class.

A large part of Cornell comprises contract colleges, in state middle class.

The other ones are full of mediocre rich.

oh wait this garbage is from 2017 so outdated

Please note that this was published in January 2017, tracking "about 30 million students born between 1980 and 1991." Great data, but I'd love to for someone to revisit this question for students born between, say, 1990 and 2001.

makes sense but chicago is surprising. everyone claiming they cater to full pay private school kids on here

hopkins, mit, cornell with good diversity

Anonymous wrote:Student population:

Top 1% BOT 60%
Princeton University 17.0 13.6
Duke University 19.2 16.5
Yale University 18.7 16.3
University of Pennsylvania 18.7 16.5
Brown University 19.5 18.2
Stanford University 17.5 18.6
Northwestern University 14.1 16.8
Johns Hopkins University 11.5 14.5
Harvard University 15.1 20.4
Cornell University 10.5 19.6
University of Chicago 10.0 24.5
MIT 5.7 23.4

Right away MIT leads the list followed by Uchicago/Cornell.

As suspected , Duke , Brown ,UPenn etc are playground for the rich ( largely)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

And what is the point exactly?

Yes, those who can afford 90K+/year are more likely to attend and even apply. But this actually shows that plenty are in the 61-98% as well.

Fact is while those schools might provide "full financial need", most poor kids from the rural Oklahoma are not even thinking about applying to T20 schools, they are applying to local privates and the State Universities. Outside of the Northeast where majority of the T20 schools are located, most poor kids are simply not applying. And even in the NE, most poor kids are thinking state U.

Student population:

Top 1% BOT 60%
Princeton University 17.0 13.6
Duke University 19.2 16.5
Yale University 18.7 16.3
University of Pennsylvania 18.7 16.5
Brown University 19.5 18.2
Stanford University 17.5 18.6
Northwestern University 14.1 16.8
Johns Hopkins University 11.5 14.5
Harvard University 15.1 20.4
Cornell University 10.5 19.6
University of Chicago 10.0 24.5
MIT 5.7 23.4

Right away MIT leads the list followed by Uchicago/Cornell.

As suspected , Duke , Brown ,UPenn etc are playground for the rich ( largely)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare