Anonymous
10/31/2025 16:28
Subject: Re:The Dark Side of the Ivy League: Prestige & The Cost of Success
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“The Ivy League Is a Game Within a Game” — Key Takeaways
Game Zero:
Getting into the Ivy League isn’t the finish line — it’s only the starting gate.
A Game Within the Game:
Once on campus, there’s an invisible layer of privilege and insider knowledge.
Some students “move differently” because they’ve grown up around these systems.
Elitism Is Real:
Legacy students and the well-connected often already know how to navigate professors, requirements, and opportunities.
Everyone Feels Lost at First:
Even the smartest kids feel like they’re drowning the first two years. That’s normal — what matters is how fast you learn the system.
Go to Office Hours:
Professors actually expect it. Show up, ask questions, and build relationships early.
Use Information Strategically:
Savvy students find old tests, course syllabi, and grading patterns before registering.
They don’t waste time in the wrong classes.
Network Intentionally:
Join Greek life if it fits you — it’s social capital.
Join career-relevant clubs to meet upper-class students who know how internships really work.
Protect Your Integrity:
If you’re caught in academic dishonesty, it’s devastating.
Wealthier peers may lawyer up — you probably can’t. Don’t risk it.
Check Your Motives:
Ask yourself: What brand are you chasing, and why?
The Ivy name isn’t the goal; what you build with it is.
ok but this doesn't sound like anything dark
Agree. That’s for clicks. The real thesis seems to be that just getting into or graduating from an Ivy isn’t a golden ticket. The golden ticket seems to be learning the system and using the resources to get you where you want to go. Of course, you have to know where you want to go or at least choose a starting point.
And that is why kids who are good candidates/have resume for any T25 school will excel wherever they go and have similar outcomes 95%+ of the time. Why? Because it's what you do while at college and beyond, not where you go.
Anonymous
10/31/2025 16:21
Subject: Re:The Dark Side of the Ivy League: Prestige & The Cost of Success
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“The Ivy League Is a Game Within a Game” — Key Takeaways
Game Zero:
Getting into the Ivy League isn’t the finish line — it’s only the starting gate.
A Game Within the Game:
Once on campus, there’s an invisible layer of privilege and insider knowledge.
Some students “move differently” because they’ve grown up around these systems.
Elitism Is Real:
Legacy students and the well-connected often already know how to navigate professors, requirements, and opportunities.
Everyone Feels Lost at First:
Even the smartest kids feel like they’re drowning the first two years. That’s normal — what matters is how fast you learn the system.
Go to Office Hours:
Professors actually expect it. Show up, ask questions, and build relationships early.
Use Information Strategically:
Savvy students find old tests, course syllabi, and grading patterns before registering.
They don’t waste time in the wrong classes.
Network Intentionally:
Join Greek life if it fits you — it’s social capital.
Join career-relevant clubs to meet upper-class students who know how internships really work.
Protect Your Integrity:
If you’re caught in academic dishonesty, it’s devastating.
Wealthier peers may lawyer up — you probably can’t. Don’t risk it.
Check Your Motives:
Ask yourself: What brand are you chasing, and why?
The Ivy name isn’t the goal; what you build with it is.
ok but this doesn't sound like anything dark
Agree. That’s for clicks. The real thesis seems to be that just getting into or graduating from an Ivy isn’t a golden ticket. The golden ticket seems to be learning the system and using the resources to get you where you want to go. Of course, you have to know where you want to go or at least choose a starting point.
Anonymous
10/31/2025 15:26
Subject: Re:The Dark Side of the Ivy League: Prestige & The Cost of Success
Anonymous wrote:“The Ivy League Is a Game Within a Game” — Key Takeaways
Game Zero:
Getting into the Ivy League isn’t the finish line — it’s only the starting gate.
A Game Within the Game:
Once on campus, there’s an invisible layer of privilege and insider knowledge.
Some students “move differently” because they’ve grown up around these systems.
Elitism Is Real:
Legacy students and the well-connected often already know how to navigate professors, requirements, and opportunities.
Everyone Feels Lost at First:
Even the smartest kids feel like they’re drowning the first two years. That’s normal — what matters is how fast you learn the system.
Go to Office Hours:
Professors actually expect it. Show up, ask questions, and build relationships early.
Use Information Strategically:
Savvy students find old tests, course syllabi, and grading patterns before registering.
They don’t waste time in the wrong classes.
Network Intentionally:
Join Greek life if it fits you — it’s social capital.
Join career-relevant clubs to meet upper-class students who know how internships really work.
Protect Your Integrity:
If you’re caught in academic dishonesty, it’s devastating.
Wealthier peers may lawyer up — you probably can’t. Don’t risk it.
Check Your Motives:
Ask yourself: What brand are you chasing, and why?
The Ivy name isn’t the goal; what you build with it is.
ok but this doesn't sound like anything dark
Anonymous
10/31/2025 13:07
Subject: The Dark Side of the Ivy League: Prestige & The Cost of Success
this is why GPA hardly matters. and why I also dont think it matters. assuming the admissions committee didn't completely shit the bed (and maybe they did during Covid and TO, but that's over), kids who get into colleges that take 3 out of every 100 kids can do the work. it's the outside stuff that matters. yep, the competitive clubs matter. I know kids at yale in the investment club and - as kids who have been on campus for 2 months - are already meeting CEOs informally discussing their company's stock. These are people who dont want to meet with Princeton kids - although maybe they'll do one big talk - but to meet with the top 5% of Princeton kids who are interested in finance. (and dont ask questions about divesting, etc)
Anonymous
10/31/2025 13:04
Subject: The Dark Side of the Ivy League: Prestige & The Cost of Success
Anonymous wrote:Not listening to 45minutes of rambling. Is there a thesis?
Enter the link into ChatGPT and it will give you a thesis/summary.
Anonymous
10/31/2025 12:58
Subject: Re:The Dark Side of the Ivy League: Prestige & The Cost of Success
Thanks chatgptAnonymous wrote:“The Ivy League Is a Game Within a Game” — Key Takeaways
Game Zero:
Getting into the Ivy League isn’t the finish line — it’s only the starting gate.
A Game Within the Game:
Once on campus, there’s an invisible layer of privilege and insider knowledge.
Some students “move differently” because they’ve grown up around these systems.
Elitism Is Real:
Legacy students and the well-connected often already know how to navigate professors, requirements, and opportunities.
Everyone Feels Lost at First:
Even the smartest kids feel like they’re drowning the first two years. That’s normal — what matters is how fast you learn the system.
Go to Office Hours:
Professors actually expect it. Show up, ask questions, and build relationships early.
Use Information Strategically:
Savvy students find old tests, course syllabi, and grading patterns before registering.
They don’t waste time in the wrong classes.
Network Intentionally:
Join Greek life if it fits you — it’s social capital.
Join career-relevant clubs to meet upper-class students who know how internships really work.
Protect Your Integrity:
If you’re caught in academic dishonesty, it’s devastating.
Wealthier peers may lawyer up — you probably can’t. Don’t risk it.
Check Your Motives:
Ask yourself: What brand are you chasing, and why?
The Ivy name isn’t the goal; what you build with it is.
Anonymous
10/31/2025 12:58
Subject: Re:The Dark Side of the Ivy League: Prestige & The Cost of Success
Anonymous wrote:“The Ivy League Is a Game Within a Game” — Key Takeaways
Game Zero:
Getting into the Ivy League isn’t the finish line — it’s only the starting gate.
A Game Within the Game:
Once on campus, there’s an invisible layer of privilege and insider knowledge.
Some students “move differently” because they’ve grown up around these systems.
Elitism Is Real:
Legacy students and the well-connected often already know how to navigate professors, requirements, and opportunities.
Everyone Feels Lost at First:
Even the smartest kids feel like they’re drowning the first two years. That’s normal — what matters is how fast you learn the system.
Go to Office Hours:
Professors actually expect it. Show up, ask questions, and build relationships early.
Use Information Strategically:
Savvy students find old tests, course syllabi, and grading patterns before registering.
They don’t waste time in the wrong classes.
Network Intentionally:
Join Greek life if it fits you — it’s social capital.
Join career-relevant clubs to meet upper-class students who know how internships really work.
Protect Your Integrity:
If you’re caught in academic dishonesty, it’s devastating.
Wealthier peers may lawyer up — you probably can’t. Don’t risk it.
Check Your Motives:
Ask yourself: What brand are you chasing, and why?
The Ivy name isn’t the goal; what you build with it is.
Thanks!
Anonymous
10/31/2025 12:56
Subject: Re:The Dark Side of the Ivy League: Prestige & The Cost of Success
“The Ivy League Is a Game Within a Game” — Key Takeaways
Game Zero:
Getting into the Ivy League isn’t the finish line — it’s only the starting gate.
A Game Within the Game:
Once on campus, there’s an invisible layer of privilege and insider knowledge.
Some students “move differently” because they’ve grown up around these systems.
Elitism Is Real:
Legacy students and the well-connected often already know how to navigate professors, requirements, and opportunities.
Everyone Feels Lost at First:
Even the smartest kids feel like they’re drowning the first two years. That’s normal — what matters is how fast you learn the system.
Go to Office Hours:
Professors actually expect it. Show up, ask questions, and build relationships early.
Use Information Strategically:
Savvy students find old tests, course syllabi, and grading patterns before registering.
They don’t waste time in the wrong classes.
Network Intentionally:
Join Greek life if it fits you — it’s social capital.
Join career-relevant clubs to meet upper-class students who know how internships really work.
Protect Your Integrity:
If you’re caught in academic dishonesty, it’s devastating.
Wealthier peers may lawyer up — you probably can’t. Don’t risk it.
Check Your Motives:
Ask yourself: What brand are you chasing, and why?
The Ivy name isn’t the goal; what you build with it is.
Game Zero:
Getting into the Ivy League isn’t the finish line — it’s only the starting gate.
A Game Within the Game:
Once on campus, there’s an invisible layer of privilege and insider knowledge.
Some students “move differently” because they’ve grown up around these systems.
Elitism Is Real:
Legacy students and the well-connected often already know how to navigate professors, requirements, and opportunities.
Everyone Feels Lost at First:
Even the smartest kids feel like they’re drowning the first two years. That’s normal — what matters is how fast you learn the system.
Go to Office Hours:
Professors actually expect it. Show up, ask questions, and build relationships early.
Use Information Strategically:
Savvy students find old tests, course syllabi, and grading patterns before registering.
They don’t waste time in the wrong classes.
Network Intentionally:
Join Greek life if it fits you — it’s social capital.
Join career-relevant clubs to meet upper-class students who know how internships really work.
Protect Your Integrity:
If you’re caught in academic dishonesty, it’s devastating.
Wealthier peers may lawyer up — you probably can’t. Don’t risk it.
Check Your Motives:
Ask yourself: What brand are you chasing, and why?
The Ivy name isn’t the goal; what you build with it is.
Anonymous
10/31/2025 12:56
Subject: The Dark Side of the Ivy League: Prestige & The Cost of Success
Anonymous wrote:Stanford isn't Ivy League
You must be the stupidest person on DCUM. The woman in the Stanford sweatshirt graduated from Columbia, and probably attended Stanford graduate school. The woman on the right attended Dartmouth.
Anonymous
10/31/2025 12:49
Subject: The Dark Side of the Ivy League: Prestige & The Cost of Success
Anonymous wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkNnsxjdnlA
My DD is in her 2nd year at one of the Ivies. My older DD recently graduated from an Ivy, and she is still looking for a job. They said that everything is 100% accurate in this video.
A sucker is gonna be a sucker even if they faked into an ivy.
Anonymous
10/31/2025 12:46
Subject: The Dark Side of the Ivy League: Prestige & The Cost of Success
Anonymous wrote:Stanford isn't Ivy League
No. It’s better.
Anonymous
10/31/2025 12:44
Subject: The Dark Side of the Ivy League: Prestige & The Cost of Success
Stanford isn't Ivy League
Anonymous
10/31/2025 12:44
Subject: The Dark Side of the Ivy League: Prestige & The Cost of Success
Not listening to 45minutes of rambling. Is there a thesis?
Anonymous
10/31/2025 12:42
Subject: The Dark Side of the Ivy League: Prestige & The Cost of Success
interesting... some parts are long though.
Anonymous
10/31/2025 11:52
Subject: The Dark Side of the Ivy League: Prestige & The Cost of Success
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkNnsxjdnlA
My DD is in her 2nd year at one of the Ivies. My older DD recently graduated from an Ivy, and she is still looking for a job. They said that everything is 100% accurate in this video.
My DD is in her 2nd year at one of the Ivies. My older DD recently graduated from an Ivy, and she is still looking for a job. They said that everything is 100% accurate in this video.