I've worked with kids in juvie and for the vast majority of these kids, there are no parents around. Do you want to fine a foster parent or group home?

Anonymous wrote:Academic achievement isn't the same as behavior.

I have three kids, and the highest academic achieving student of the three (now at a DCUM brag worthy college) was extremely talkative in class and often in trouble with teachers for talking in class and disrupting others.

By comparison my lowest achieving kid has never had a teacher complaint through high school, and multiple teachers stating he is "pleasure to have in class", but his academic performance is hindered by a learning disability.

Same with mine. She's bored because she's testing well beyond grade level, but they don't know what to do with her this year. The gifted program doesn't start for another year. She's always chatting with other kids (some who need to listen) and her teacher or the teacher's aids because the curriculum is boring. Think reading chapter books and learning long division almost intuitively, while the rest of the class is learning to add and subtract within 20, and learning phonics. Of course she's disruptive. She's young and social and bored.

If your kids are that great, they'll get into AAP and be fine. It's only the mediocre kids who lose.

Parents who enable truancy should pay some sort of penalty. They’re raising a public liability.

Punitive measures will certainly help. Let’s put OP in charge. 🫠

I get it, OP. I have students falling sleep in class because parents won’t enforce limits on devices at home. I have parents who don’t respond to any of the schools messages (even when we use translating apps and translators who leave messages). I have parents who take their kids out of school for weeks at a time. It’s utter madness and there needs to be accountability for families. It cuts across all socioeconomic levels. I am at a “good school”, too.

Academic achievement isn't the same as behavior.

I have three kids, and the highest academic achieving student of the three (now at a DCUM brag worthy college) was extremely talkative in class and often in trouble with teachers for talking in class and disrupting others.

By comparison my lowest achieving kid has never had a teacher complaint through high school, and multiple teachers stating he is "pleasure to have in class", but his academic performance is hindered by a learning disability.

The public schools are a social safety net, designed for the average and below average. If your kids are eager learners, they have the choice to seek a better environment.

Anonymous wrote:It frustrates that my kids behave are eager learners, but I have to pay more to get them a decent education, when they are actually easier to teach than those who don't perform as well and are actually actively disrupting my kids.

You can’t be this obtuse. My son’s 2nd-grade class has four children with autism, one of whom has moderate needs. He sometimes struggles to follow directions and can be disruptive at times.

But my son has learned compassion. Education isn’t just about numbers and letters — it’s about learning how to live in a community.

Anonymous wrote:My average student has gone through 8 grades of public school now with zero disrupting kids. Do a better job finding schools, troll.

I have/had two kids in public school. Older one is doing great in college. Younger one loves his middle school. I haven't heard anything about disruptive kids. They have seen fights, but outside of the classroom.

My very smart kid can be a pain in the butt to teach “um, isn’t it actually…” should I be fined?

The world needs all kinds of people with all kinds of strengths. But they should all be able to read, do math, know basic history, have exposure to the arts, etc. Especially in a democracy where we rely on each other to vote and help select a representative government.

K-12 public education doesn't just exist for college bound high achievers. It's also for future bus drivers, grocery stockers, construction workers, daycare workers, etc.

Also some kids can work really hard and still never be as high achieving as others, even with lots of family support. That doesn't mean we should kick them out or punish their parents. Not everyone is a future doctor, lawyer, college professor, or engineer. That's okay, they still need school.

My average student has gone through 8 grades of public school now with zero disrupting kids. Do a better job finding schools, troll.

Get a job, troll

It frustrates that my kids behave are eager learners, but I have to pay more to get them a decent education, when they are actually easier to teach than those who don't perform as well and are actually actively disrupting my kids.