Anonymous
Post 10/17/2025 12:00     Subject: USC rejects Trump education compact aimed at shifting the university to the right

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t think that the vast majority of colleges are too far to the left?


That's not the question. The question is: if universities aligned exactly with YOUR beliefs, and the government didn't like it, would you approve of government telling universities what to teach and what to say and what to think?

Didn't think so.


Me again. Actually I DO think most campuses these days are a whiffy petri dish of the virtue-signaling left, not the thinking left. But I will fight for their right to be immature thinkers and spout nonsense, because that's freedom of speech. You can open your mouth and show the world you're stupid.



Anonymous
Post 10/17/2025 11:57     Subject: USC rejects Trump education compact aimed at shifting the university to the right

Anonymous wrote:You don’t think that the vast majority of colleges are too far to the left?


That's not the question. The question is: if universities aligned exactly with YOUR beliefs, and the government didn't like it, would you approve of government telling universities what to teach and what to say and what to think?

Didn't think so.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2025 11:49     Subject: USC rejects Trump education compact aimed at shifting the university to the right

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t think that the vast majority of colleges are too far to the left?


That's not for me to say. I think all colleges should have academic freedom from the government. Whether they organically veer to the left or right, I don't care. They should just be free to go in any direction they choose. And students can make their own judgements on whether they want to attend.


Of course, all schools should enjoy academic freedom, but not all schools should enjoy & benefit from Federal research funding grants.

Relationships--whether financial or otherwise-come with restrictions.


So republicans are now against awarding research grants based on merit? Again, how far they have fallen.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2025 11:44     Subject: USC rejects Trump education compact aimed at shifting the university to the right

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t think that the vast majority of colleges are too far to the left?


That's not for me to say. I think all colleges should have academic freedom from the government. Whether they organically veer to the left or right, I don't care. They should just be free to go in any direction they choose. And students can make their own judgements on whether they want to attend.


Of course, all schools should enjoy academic freedom, but not all schools should enjoy & benefit from Federal research funding grants.

Relationships--whether financial or otherwise-come with restrictions.


Most of the federal research dollars universities bring in are awarded by NIH, NSF, DOE, etc. through open competitions among the very best academics in the country on mostly STEM topics that have little to do with politics or ideology.

Academic departments that may be at odds with the current administration's political ideology (e.g., social sciences, humanities) don't bring in much federal money, if at all.

Departments that do (e.g., engineering, hard sciences, medicine) are aiming at building better 3-D printers, understanding how quantum entanglement can be used to benefit humans, create more reliable cancer cell detection schemes, etc. Why penalize them?? Professors in these departments typically don't have much to say about politics. They just want to do their research/teaching/services but become collateral damage.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2025 11:22     Subject: USC rejects Trump education compact aimed at shifting the university to the right

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t think that the vast majority of colleges are too far to the left?


That's not for me to say. I think all colleges should have academic freedom from the government. Whether they organically veer to the left or right, I don't care. They should just be free to go in any direction they choose. And students can make their own judgements on whether they want to attend.


Of course, all schools should enjoy academic freedom, but not all schools should enjoy & benefit from Federal research funding grants.

Relationships--whether financial or otherwise-come with restrictions.

If you want government-run universities where public funds buy restrictions on curricula and determine what can be taught and discussed, go to China.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2025 11:18     Subject: USC rejects Trump education compact aimed at shifting the university to the right

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t think that the vast majority of colleges are too far to the left?


That's not for me to say. I think all colleges should have academic freedom from the government. Whether they organically veer to the left or right, I don't care. They should just be free to go in any direction they choose. And students can make their own judgements on whether they want to attend.


Of course, all schools should enjoy academic freedom, but not all schools should enjoy & benefit from Federal research funding grants.

Relationships--whether financial or otherwise-come with restrictions.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2025 11:18     Subject: USC rejects Trump education compact aimed at shifting the university to the right

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don’t think that the vast majority of colleges are too far to the left?


That's not for me to say. I think all colleges should have academic freedom from the government. Whether they organically veer to the left or right, I don't care. They should just be free to go in any direction they choose. And students can make their own judgements on whether they want to attend.


+1
Republicans have veered so very far away from their founding principles. They are no longer talking about “freedom” are they?
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2025 11:14     Subject: USC rejects Trump education compact aimed at shifting the university to the right

Anonymous wrote:You don’t think that the vast majority of colleges are too far to the left?


That's not for me to say. I think all colleges should have academic freedom from the government. Whether they organically veer to the left or right, I don't care. They should just be free to go in any direction they choose. And students can make their own judgements on whether they want to attend.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2025 11:11     Subject: USC rejects Trump education compact aimed at shifting the university to the right

Anonymous wrote:You don’t think that the vast majority of colleges are too far to the left?


No. Only deranged maga would think that.

Also —

You think the government should be in the business of telling universities how to run themselves? And extort them into complying?
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2025 11:10     Subject: USC rejects Trump education compact aimed at shifting the university to the right

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any reputable university signing that. UVA hasn’t made a decision yet? Should be an easy no.

UT said right away that they would sign it.

UVA’s faculty has come out against it, but I assume the essentially Trump-appointed interim president is struggling between knowing what he was appointed to do and his actual expertise as a law school professor.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2025 11:08     Subject: USC rejects Trump education compact aimed at shifting the university to the right

You don’t think that the vast majority of colleges are too far to the left?
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2025 11:07     Subject: USC rejects Trump education compact aimed at shifting the university to the right

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any reputable university signing that. UVA hasn’t made a decision yet? Should be an easy no.


Exactly!
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2025 03:31     Subject: USC rejects Trump education compact aimed at shifting the university to the right

I can’t imagine any reputable university signing that. UVA hasn’t made a decision yet? Should be an easy no.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2025 02:13     Subject: USC rejects Trump education compact aimed at shifting the university to the right

Well done, USC!

And MIT, Brown and Penn too.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2025 01:43     Subject: USC rejects Trump education compact aimed at shifting the university to the right

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-10-16/usc-rejects-trump-education-compact

USC interim President Beong-Soo Kim rejected the Trump administration’s education compact, which would offer priority funding to universities following the president’s conservative vision.

At a USC Academic Senate meeting, faculty strongly opposed the compact, with some calling it “probably unconstitutional” and “antithetical to principles of academic freedom.”

USC joins U Penn, MIT, Brown in rejecting Trump's compact.