Anonymous
Post 10/15/2025 11:07     Subject: HAMAS must disarm

Anonymous wrote:What do nearby countries say about disarming HAMAS? Also, Hamas is not the same as Palestinian or Gazan. Are we or countries in the region making this distinction?


Good points.

Fatah are the rightful and legitimate government of all Palestinian people. HAMAS is a designated terrorist organization, who clearly must disband.

No one is talking about Fatah disarming.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2025 11:05     Subject: HAMAS must disarm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Peace has finally come to Gaza and it is wonderful aid is finally flowing in.

But the current peace is fragile. And the peace is threatened every day HAMAS refuses to place its weapons beyond use. No one is in favor of an armed HAMAS.

Will they finally disarm? And if so, when?


Do you also agree that Israel must also disarm?


The adults are talking, dear. Please sit down and remain silent.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2025 11:04     Subject: HAMAS must disarm

What do nearby countries say about disarming HAMAS? Also, Hamas is not the same as Palestinian or Gazan. Are we or countries in the region making this distinction?
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2025 11:00     Subject: HAMAS must disarm

Anonymous wrote:Peace has finally come to Gaza and it is wonderful aid is finally flowing in.

But the current peace is fragile. And the peace is threatened every day HAMAS refuses to place its weapons beyond use. No one is in favor of an armed HAMAS.

Will they finally disarm? And if so, when?


Do you also agree that Israel must also disarm?
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2025 10:58     Subject: Re:HAMAS must disarm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump also said they must disarm and if they don’t we will disarm them.


So by "we will disarm them" you and trump are advocating for US boots on the ground in Gaza in open warfare?


As for any “boots on the ground,” the only effective model in the region (IMO) is The Multinational Force of Observers, based in The Sinai. They enforce their mandate with their weapons. A credible force with a strong mandate could bring relief to the civilians in Gaza, while hopefully keeping HAMAS and other local designated terrorist organizations, in check.

In contrast, we have all seen the failed farce known as the “U.N. Peacekeeping group” (I refuse to call them a force), in Southern Lebanon, who do nothing beyond facilitate Hezbollah’s activities in the area.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2025 10:54     Subject: HAMAS must disarm

Next year? israel at this moment is throttling aid and they are continuing sporadic attacks.
Try in less than a month.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx2r2z0gyp7t
jsteele
Post 10/15/2025 10:52     Subject: Re:HAMAS must disarm

Trump also said that Hamas "took out two very evil gangs, and it killed a number of their members. It didn't bother me much to be honest with you, it's fine".



He then went on to compare what Hamas is doing to what he did in Washington, DC (which is a pretty frightening statement).

Anonymous
Post 10/15/2025 10:52     Subject: Re:HAMAS must disarm

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump also said they must disarm and if they don’t we will disarm them.


So by "we will disarm them" you and trump are advocating for US boots on the ground in Gaza in open warfare?


Did I say that, or even suggest that?

No; no I did not.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2025 10:50     Subject: Re:HAMAS must disarm

jsteele wrote:Trump recently said that he had agreed to allow Hamas to establish security in Gaza. So Hamas will keep its arms with Trump's approval for a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJlJL_TEBJM


Interesting. Thanks.

Will have to look further into the details, but to me, it would be reasonable for “police” / security forces in Gaza to have maybe handguns, or as is ubiquitous in the region: Kalashnikov carbines. So-called “light arms.” But nothing more.

Will HAMAS place its rockets/launchers, anti tank weapons, mortars, explosives, artillery, and grenades beyond use?

Or will we be back in the same quagmire a year from now?
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2025 10:41     Subject: HAMAS must disarm

Anonymous wrote:Peace has finally come to Gaza and it is wonderful aid is finally flowing in.

But the current peace is fragile. And the peace is threatened every day HAMAS refuses to place its weapons beyond use. No one is in favor of an armed HAMAS.

Will they finally disarm? And if so, when?


Hamas doesn't seem capable of posing a threat to anyone in Israel right now, though they do seem to be continuing to pose a threat to Gaza residents who don't fall in line behind them. But I don't see any rationale for ending the ceasefire just because Hamas is holding onto its weapons. If the Israeli government can't manage to prevent another attack from Gaza after the last two years, that's on them.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2025 10:22     Subject: Re:HAMAS must disarm

Anonymous wrote:Trump also said they must disarm and if they don’t we will disarm them.


So by "we will disarm them" you and trump are advocating for US boots on the ground in Gaza in open warfare?
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2025 10:13     Subject: HAMAS must disarm

Anonymous wrote:Peace has finally come to Gaza and it is wonderful aid is finally flowing in.

But the current peace is fragile. And the peace is threatened every day HAMAS refuses to place its weapons beyond use. No one is in favor of an armed HAMAS.

Will they finally disarm? And if so, when?


No Hamas has a right to defend itself. Israel has said they will kill all Hamas no matter what.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2025 10:11     Subject: Re:HAMAS must disarm

Trump also said they must disarm and if they don’t we will disarm them.
jsteele
Post 10/15/2025 10:10     Subject: Re:HAMAS must disarm

Trump recently said that he had agreed to allow Hamas to establish security in Gaza. So Hamas will keep its arms with Trump's approval for a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJlJL_TEBJM

Anonymous
Post 10/15/2025 10:08     Subject: HAMAS must disarm

Peace has finally come to Gaza and it is wonderful aid is finally flowing in.

But the current peace is fragile. And the peace is threatened every day HAMAS refuses to place its weapons beyond use. No one is in favor of an armed HAMAS.

Will they finally disarm? And if so, when?