Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 19:15     Subject: Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

Anonymous wrote:Free Christian nation


That is self-contradictory
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 19:04     Subject: Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

Free Christian nation
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 19:04     Subject: Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

Anonymous wrote:This White House document about religious freedom seems self-contradictory. A free nation (and the leader thereof) should not specify that people must believe in a single creator or any creator.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/09/president-trump-champions-religious-freedom-unveils-america-prays/

Personally, I value us as a "Free nation." I am also, admittedly, an atheist. Am I still welcome in the US? Or do conservatives want religion as a litmus test for being a "true" American?



Maybe it's your atheism, but you seem really confused.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 18:16     Subject: Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

Anonymous wrote:A free nation assumes Christian morality. Separation of church and state is Christian principle.


Morality does not need to be "Christian" morality. It is a false premise that human morality comes from religion.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 17:39     Subject: Re:Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

They want a nation where it's free to be racist and abuse women.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 17:38     Subject: Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

Anonymous wrote:*Their version of Christianity which to many of us Christians is very antithetical to the teachings of Jesus.


MAGA = Christian nationalism, which is not Christianity, it is anti Christ. There is nothing in the MAGA agenda which reflects the Sermon on the Mount.

Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 17:24     Subject: Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

Anonymous wrote:A Christian nation. They won't care about freedom until fellow Magas come for them, for whatever reason.


Did you have this much angst when democrats were pushing the state of Michigan to install foot baths in State Universities for muslims at public expense?
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 17:03     Subject: Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

A free nation assumes Christian morality. Separation of church and state is Christian principle.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 16:54     Subject: Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

*Their version of Christianity which to many of us Christians is very antithetical to the teachings of Jesus.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 16:20     Subject: Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

Anonymous wrote:Thus far, nobody from the right will provide any response?


Well that is likely because they had no clue how to answer that, so they googled it and accidentally fell upon a 5th grade history lesson. They learned that religious freedom does not mean the freedom to force your religion on others, and it is actually the opposite. They also learned that if it weren’t for the pursuit of religious freedom, they would be British. Their heads are spinning right now. Give them a minute.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 16:00     Subject: Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

Thus far, nobody from the right will provide any response?
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 15:54     Subject: Re:Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives want religious freedom. MAGA is not conservative.


Disagree. Conservatives = MAGA (see Grassley, McConnell, and others).

Also, conservatives/MAGA want a white Christian nation, even if it costs them their personal liabilities like voting rights.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 15:38     Subject: Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

A Christian nation. They won't care about freedom until fellow Magas come for them, for whatever reason.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 15:27     Subject: Re:Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

Conservatives want religious freedom. MAGA is not conservative.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2025 15:11     Subject: Do MAGAs want a Christian Nation or a Free Nation?

This White House document about religious freedom seems self-contradictory. A free nation (and the leader thereof) should not specify that people must believe in a single creator or any creator.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/09/president-trump-champions-religious-freedom-unveils-america-prays/

Personally, I value us as a "Free nation." I am also, admittedly, an atheist. Am I still welcome in the US? Or do conservatives want religion as a litmus test for being a "true" American?