Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your whole story just sounds off, OP.

First you say you "adopted", which means saving a puppy from a bad situation via a rescue or shelter. Then you talk about a breeder. It sounds like you fell for a puppy mill. You should never buy a puppy at a distance - you need to visit the facility and check for yourself it isn't a puppy mill. And then you didn't even want to bond with it immediately, but you just farmed out the training to someone who probably haven't met in person either. And you paid up front for a trainer who broke your puppy's leg? Are they asking for vet money, hmm?

Also, it doesn't sound like you feel sorry for the puppy, just that you're upset the birthday gift won't arrive on time. The puppy is a commodity to you?

It's all gross.

You're a jerk, "adopted" doesn't solely mean -from a rescue. It wasn't a puppy mill and the dog trainer came recommended from breeder. I do feel bad for the pup. Why are you commenting or on this site, go get a life.

Nah, DP and I agree with the PP. This whole post sounds like "dog as item" not "dog as living creature" and it's off, at a minimum.

You sound like a jerk, OP. You're either trolling, or just a nasty person who shouldn't own a dog.

Anonymous wrote:Ok, to address some of your concerns, the puppy will very likely heal completely fine and not have long term issues. The puppy will need to be kept crated to allow the leg to heal, not fun, but not the end of the world. Once the pup is home, follow up with a visit to your vet to be sure everything is healing and that you were given accurate information about the extent of the injury. Ask the trainer to foot the bill for this as he is responsible and should have insurance to cover his liability. If he refuses, take the dog to the vet anyway and pursue damages later.
On your child's birthday, give the puppy supplies and a photo of the puppy. Explain to the child when the puppy will arrive. Problem solved
You will need to supervise your adult dog with the puppy and probably separate with baby gates until they adjust. They're eventually going to be evenly matched, but the puppy's leg needs to be cleared by your vet before they can play.
A fracture should not impede you getting insurance for your puppy. They won't cover anything related to this injury, but anything else should be unaffected. You mention that the dog has a merle coat, so I assume a herding breed, have the puppy genetically tested for mdr1 which will affect the ability to tolerate some medication. It is good information for you/your vet to have.

OP here, Thank you, truly! The trainer has been responsible and caring with my pup. She has a good relationship with the breeder which has good reviews and standing, including BBB. I am already attached to this dog, although I have not seen the dog personally. I have had many conversations and videos. We brought home another dog 7 years ago, different breeder, the same way, and had no issues. My other dog is healthy and has never had a problem so this new leg dilemma is all new to me. Going to training right away was a condition my husband placed in order to adopt a second dog- not that I have to explain!

Thank you again!

Op should go get her dog now. It shouldn’t even be a question. You bind for a few weeks and use a local trainer that works with both of you. This breeder is terrible. Our breeder would meet us half way or even come to us if needed, we met half way, but would never ship a dog or allow it to go to a trainer before us.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your whole story just sounds off, OP.

First you say you "adopted", which means saving a puppy from a bad situation via a rescue or shelter. Then you talk about a breeder. It sounds like you fell for a puppy mill. You should never buy a puppy at a distance - you need to visit the facility and check for yourself it isn't a puppy mill. And then you didn't even want to bond with it immediately, but you just farmed out the training to someone who probably haven't met in person either. And you paid up front for a trainer who broke your puppy's leg? Are they asking for vet money, hmm?

Also, it doesn't sound like you feel sorry for the puppy, just that you're upset the birthday gift won't arrive on time. The puppy is a commodity to you?

It's all gross.

You're a jerk, "adopted" doesn't solely mean -from a rescue. It wasn't a puppy mill and the dog trainer came recommended from breeder. I do feel bad for the pup. Why are you commenting or on this site, go get a life.

This PP is right. The whole post is putting out red flags galore and I say that as someone who has exclusively gotten my dogs from responsible breeders and has worked with many trainers. These "packages" of paying for a dog sight unseen, adding an extra of training at that young age during prime bonding time and shipping a dog to you is puppy mill behavior. That the dog was injured during this makes it even worse. Sorry, the breeder sounds terrible, I've neber worked with one who would operate like this.

I’m a little uncertain OP is up for feeling with an injured puppy in rehab considering she wasn’t up for training the puppy in the first place. I kind of don’t get the concept of getting a puppy but then giving up all its core baby time when you could be bonding.

I would be a little concerned about socialization since this dog is already 12 weeks old and now is gojng to lose more socialization time. I would be really committed to figuring out ways to get the puppy properly socialized consistent with the medical restrictions.

Anonymous wrote:Your whole story just sounds off, OP.

First you say you "adopted", which means saving a puppy from a bad situation via a rescue or shelter. Then you talk about a breeder. It sounds like you fell for a puppy mill. You should never buy a puppy at a distance - you need to visit the facility and check for yourself it isn't a puppy mill. And then you didn't even want to bond with it immediately, but you just farmed out the training to someone who probably haven't met in person either. And you paid up front for a trainer who broke your puppy's leg? Are they asking for vet money, hmm?

Also, it doesn't sound like you feel sorry for the puppy, just that you're upset the birthday gift won't arrive on time. The puppy is a commodity to you?

It's all gross.

It all breeders are puppy mills and demanding everyone go to rescues is a bad idea as not everyone is ok with the behaviors and other issues. But, sending a puppy to a trainer is horrible as it’s prime bonding time. Most rescues are just resellers.

The word "adoption" should not be used with an animal. It's absurd.

Why would you do that to a puppy and send it to a trainer. Get in the car, get the dog and bring it to the er.

Ok, to address some of your concerns, the puppy will very likely heal completely fine and not have long term issues. The puppy will need to be kept crated to allow the leg to heal, not fun, but not the end of the world. Once the pup is home, follow up with a visit to your vet to be sure everything is healing and that you were given accurate information about the extent of the injury. Ask the trainer to foot the bill for this as he is responsible and should have insurance to cover his liability. If he refuses, take the dog to the vet anyway and pursue damages later.
On your child's birthday, give the puppy supplies and a photo of the puppy. Explain to the child when the puppy will arrive. Problem solved
You will need to supervise your adult dog with the puppy and probably separate with baby gates until they adjust. They're eventually going to be evenly matched, but the puppy's leg needs to be cleared by your vet before they can play.
A fracture should not impede you getting insurance for your puppy. They won't cover anything related to this injury, but anything else should be unaffected. You mention that the dog has a merle coat, so I assume a herding breed, have the puppy genetically tested for mdr1 which will affect the ability to tolerate some medication. It is good information for you/your vet to have.

NP. Poor puppy—everything the PP said was right on target.

Anonymous wrote:Your whole story just sounds off, OP.

First you say you "adopted", which means saving a puppy from a bad situation via a rescue or shelter. Then you talk about a breeder. It sounds like you fell for a puppy mill. You should never buy a puppy at a distance - you need to visit the facility and check for yourself it isn't a puppy mill. And then you didn't even want to bond with it immediately, but you just farmed out the training to someone who probably haven't met in person either. And you paid up front for a trainer who broke your puppy's leg? Are they asking for vet money, hmm?

Also, it doesn't sound like you feel sorry for the puppy, just that you're upset the birthday gift won't arrive on time. The puppy is a commodity to you?

It's all gross.

You're a jerk, "adopted" doesn't solely mean -from a rescue. It wasn't a puppy mill and the dog trainer came recommended from breeder. I do feel bad for the pup. Why are you commenting or on this site, go get a life.

Your whole story just sounds off, OP.

First you say you "adopted", which means saving a puppy from a bad situation via a rescue or shelter. Then you talk about a breeder. It sounds like you fell for a puppy mill. You should never buy a puppy at a distance - you need to visit the facility and check for yourself it isn't a puppy mill. And then you didn't even want to bond with it immediately, but you just farmed out the training to someone who probably haven't met in person either. And you paid up front for a trainer who broke your puppy's leg? Are they asking for vet money, hmm?

Also, it doesn't sound like you feel sorry for the puppy, just that you're upset the birthday gift won't arrive on time. The puppy is a commodity to you?

It's all gross.

Our dog broke her leg at home at about 3 months old healed in 4 weeks or so and was fine and playful during and after. She’s almost 10 now and wonderful.

Have you ever met the puppy? Get another dog.
Wasn't there always going to be a van ride?
Clawback money on credit card. The larger dog is a problem with socialization.

Trainer was responsible, took the puppy to the vet: slight leg fracture to 12 week old puppy. From photos the puppy looks fine, report says minimal issue but I haven't spoken to their vet nor mine yet. The pup has to stay there additional week (s?), also the pup was to be van transported to us in another state. I am very upset, pup was a birthday gift to my DC and now will not be on time. I am worried, the leg won't heal right plus my current dog at home is bigger and playful. I would imagine the pup won't be able to play around for weeks on end. Plus will I still be eligible for the dog to get dog insurance now?

--Is hairline fracture for a pup hindering to growth development? Will it heal normal?

- How long does it take to heal? I never experienced this even with a human.

- Will he be able to be active with a bigger dog when I bring it home?

- I'm worried about the van ride, one more different person handling the pup and transportation drive.

- Anxiety, psychological state of pup being locked in a crate at the trainer away from other dogs playing with him for couple weeks to heal and ride home, plus hand over to us, new family.

- Will we eligible for dog insurance now? Merle dog.

Is their anything else I should be thinking about? I am waiting for the x-ray and reports. The trainer is a separate entity from the breeder (works with them) and was picked up from the breeder from the trainer. We paid 50% to the trainer already.

Ugh