Anonymous wrote:Also a woman so obviously this has happened to me before too. Two types of responses:

1. Circling in X to handle — thanks!

2. I believe you can find these in the shared drive in the filings folder. (*note DO NOT LINK THE DRIVE. IF THEY FOLLOW UP WITH AN ASK FOR THE LINK, LOOP IN ADMIN ASST TO HANDLE)

Or

X sent these around last week — let me know if you didn’t get the email. (*note EVERYONE GETS A 2X COURTESY IF THEY RESPOND AND SAY THEY DIDNT GET THE EMAIL. AFTER THAT I LOOP IN ADMIN TO HELP FIND IT FOR THEM)

Either way, the auto response from you should be helpful, but does not complete their admin task. I only do these menial tasks for super senior bosses if they need it ASAP and can’t wait for the admin.

Anonymous wrote:Bob,

I'm working on other projects and don't have time to find those documents for you. I'd suggest reaching out to admin for help on this one.

Anonymous wrote:Why cant you stick up for yourself and redirect. Be blunt. You're a senior to him, right? And it's not like he's a new employee, right?

"James, It's common knowledge that Doc X is in the shared Z Drive. Check there first. Also, as you already know, Zoey is in charge of all things admin. She's great and a super helpful resource. That's a second option. Moving forward, I will not be able to assist you with these types of matters".

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nice guy overall but often seems to think I’m his admin/assistant. His requests are disruptive and not my job. I’m senior to him

Eg we are working on a project together and he’ll say ‘can you find those documents for me and send them?’

There’s an admin for our group who reports to me, but helps everyone, so lately he seems to reach out to her more often, but somehow still loops me in ‘is Larla available ? I emailed her for a doc at noon, and it’s now 12:15 and she hasn’t responded to me’ ‘oh wait, she responded’.

Please don't talk to his manager. He's doing this because you are a woman (he may not even be conscious that's why he's doing it), and as a woman in the workplace you HAVE TO be able to deal with this.

But there are two issues here - 1) does he have what he needs to do his part of the job on a project? i.e. - when he asks for documents are these docs he has or has access to, but is too lazy to go gather?; and 2) what is the admin's role?

-If under number 1, he's just lazy then be direct - Larlo, those docs are in your email/in the shared folder, please find them in there. If it's the admin's job to gather the docs for a project and then get them to him, then direct him to her. You can emphasize that it's not your job by directing him to your admin every time and by ignoring his emails.

Other tips, meet in your office at a set meeting time and cut the meeting off when it's scheduled to end. Task him with follow up. Basically, be the boss that you are.

Op here.
1. Yep, he has access, these are shared folders. He’s just lazy

2. The admin works for all of us, so she can help but often his requests are so simple that he should be able to handle things himself in most cases. But I agree, I should refer him to her.

And I agree, tattling is lame. That’s not how things are handled productively. Although I’ll admit I am often passive aggressive and ignore his messages. I’m busy and responding to him disrupts my work flow

I would respond to him by telling him where the documents are located when you have time to get to his email.

Hi Bill, the PMP and the OTR documents are in the SPS folder in the team share point. Let Cassandra know if you don’t have folder access and she can help you get that set up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nice guy overall but often seems to think I’m his admin/assistant. His requests are disruptive and not my job. I’m senior to him

Eg we are working on a project together and he’ll say ‘can you find those documents for me and send them?’

There’s an admin for our group who reports to me, but helps everyone, so lately he seems to reach out to her more often, but somehow still loops me in ‘is Larla available ? I emailed her for a doc at noon, and it’s now 12:15 and she hasn’t responded to me’ ‘oh wait, she responded’.

Please don't talk to his manager. He's doing this because you are a woman (he may not even be conscious that's why he's doing it), and as a woman in the workplace you HAVE TO be able to deal with this.

But there are two issues here - 1) does he have what he needs to do his part of the job on a project? i.e. - when he asks for documents are these docs he has or has access to, but is too lazy to go gather?; and 2) what is the admin's role?

-If under number 1, he's just lazy then be direct - Larlo, those docs are in your email/in the shared folder, please find them in there. If it's the admin's job to gather the docs for a project and then get them to him, then direct him to her. You can emphasize that it's not your job by directing him to your admin every time and by ignoring his emails.

Other tips, meet in your office at a set meeting time and cut the meeting off when it's scheduled to end. Task him with follow up. Basically, be the boss that you are.

Op here.
1. Yep, he has access, these are shared folders. He’s just lazy

2. The admin works for all of us, so she can help but often his requests are so simple that he should be able to handle things himself in most cases. But I agree, I should refer him to her.

And I agree, tattling is lame. That’s not how things are handled productively. Although I’ll admit I am often passive aggressive and ignore his messages. I’m busy and responding to him disrupts my work flow

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nice guy overall but often seems to think I’m his admin/assistant. His requests are disruptive and not my job. I’m senior to him

Eg we are working on a project together and he’ll say ‘can you find those documents for me and send them?’

There’s an admin for our group who reports to me, but helps everyone, so lately he seems to reach out to her more often, but somehow still loops me in ‘is Larla available ? I emailed her for a doc at noon, and it’s now 12:15 and she hasn’t responded to me’ ‘oh wait, she responded’.

Please don't talk to his manager. He's doing this because you are a woman (he may not even be conscious that's why he's doing it), and as a woman in the workplace you HAVE TO be able to deal with this.

But there are two issues here - 1) does he have what he needs to do his part of the job on a project? i.e. - when he asks for documents are these docs he has or has access to, but is too lazy to go gather?; and 2) what is the admin's role?

-If under number 1, he's just lazy then be direct - Larlo, those docs are in your email/in the shared folder, please find them in there. If it's the admin's job to gather the docs for a project and then get them to him, then direct him to her. You can emphasize that it's not your job by directing him to your admin every time and by ignoring his emails.

Other tips, meet in your office at a set meeting time and cut the meeting off when it's scheduled to end. Task him with follow up. Basically, be the boss that you are.

Anonymous wrote:Nice guy overall but often seems to think I’m his admin/assistant. His requests are disruptive and not my job. I’m senior to him

Eg we are working on a project together and he’ll say ‘can you find those documents for me and send them?’

There’s an admin for our group who reports to me, but helps everyone, so lately he seems to reach out to her more often, but somehow still loops me in ‘is Larla available ? I emailed her for a doc at noon, and it’s now 12:15 and she hasn’t responded to me’ ‘oh wait, she responded’.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nice guy overall but often seems to think I’m his admin/assistant. His requests are disruptive and not my job. I’m senior to him

Eg we are working on a project together and he’ll say ‘can you find those documents for me and send them?’

There’s an admin for our group who reports to me, but helps everyone, so lately he seems to reach out to her more often, but somehow still loops me in ‘is Larla available ? I emailed her for a doc at noon, and it’s now 12:15 and she hasn’t responded to me’ ‘oh wait, she responded’.

Are you a woman?

Anonymous wrote:Nice guy overall but often seems to think I’m his admin/assistant. His requests are disruptive and not my job. I’m senior to him

Eg we are working on a project together and he’ll say ‘can you find those documents for me and send them?’

There’s an admin for our group who reports to me, but helps everyone, so lately he seems to reach out to her more often, but somehow still loops me in ‘is Larla available ? I emailed her for a doc at noon, and it’s now 12:15 and she hasn’t responded to me’ ‘oh wait, she responded’.