Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It depends on the school and the vibe.

At Cornell, it dominates. At Vanderbilt, it dominates. At Duke, it's off campus, but it dominates social life/culture.

At Northwestern, it's growing. 3 more frats came back over the summer. Too much demand and not enough after the failed Abolish Greek Life movement.

I think social media (all those frat parties with big-name performers and the sorority dance/videos) has had an impact even at the most selective schools.

At Cornell it doesn’t dominate. I went to Cornell and my 3 kids went there. 3rd one is now a Freshman. One of them went Greek. Whoever said this know nothing about Cornell.

I agree. I'm from a Cornell legacy family. 2 Greeks and 4 not affiliated.

Anonymous wrote:It depends on the school and the vibe.

At Cornell, it dominates. At Vanderbilt, it dominates. At Duke, it's off campus, but it dominates social life/culture.

At Northwestern, it's growing. 3 more frats came back over the summer. Too much demand and not enough after the failed Abolish Greek Life movement.

I think social media (all those frat parties with big-name performers and the sorority dance/videos) has had an impact even at the most selective schools.

How exactly do off-campus organizations dominate school social life and culture? Especially at a school as large as Duke? Not trying to start an argument - I literally don’t understand how that works.

Let’s say 20% if kids go to off-campus Greek parties on weekends. Aren’t there other social activities and options on campus for everyone else. What do the non-Greek kids do for fun? They can’t all be pining for invites to off-campus frat parties, can they?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It depends on the school and the vibe.

At Cornell, it dominates. At Vanderbilt, it dominates. At Duke, it's off campus, but it dominates social life/culture.

At Northwestern, it's growing. 3 more frats came back over the summer. Too much demand and not enough after the failed Abolish Greek Life movement.

I think social media (all those frat parties with big-name performers and the sorority dance/videos) has had an impact even at the most selective schools.

At Cornell it doesn’t dominate. I went to Cornell and my 3 kids went there. 3rd one is now a Freshman. One of them went Greek. Whoever said this know nothing about Cornell.

I have a kid at Cornell. For neurotypical, social and gregarious kids, yes it dominates.

For kids who fit that description, how hard is it to get into a fraternity or sorority? Are there enough houses and spots to go around for the subset of kids who are interested? When do they rush?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It depends on the school and the vibe.

At Cornell, it dominates. At Vanderbilt, it dominates. At Duke, it's off campus, but it dominates social life/culture.

At Northwestern, it's growing. 3 more frats came back over the summer. Too much demand and not enough after the failed Abolish Greek Life movement.

I think social media (all those frat parties with big-name performers and the sorority dance/videos) has had an impact even at the most selective schools.

At Cornell it doesn’t dominate. I went to Cornell and my 3 kids went there. 3rd one is now a Freshman. One of them went Greek. Whoever said this know nothing about Cornell.

I have a kid at Cornell. For neurotypical, social and gregarious kids, yes it dominates.

Anonymous wrote:Both my kids attend state universities where Greek life is about 20%. Neither were interested in rushing - and they had plenty of company. When 80% of students aren’t Greek, it’s a non-issue. There are so many other activities to choose from at these schools.

This is our family's experience as well, both the parents and college age children.

Both my kids attend state universities where Greek life is about 20%. Neither were interested in rushing - and they had plenty of company. When 80% of students aren’t Greek, it’s a non-issue. There are so many other activities to choose from at these schools.

I have kids an SEC school known for Greek life.

One didn’t rush, one did.

Both have active social lives. Both are dating, attend parties, tailgates, etc.

The one that didn’t rush still attended a number of sorority formals (dated a lot of sorority girls over the years).

Practically speaking, how many friends do you need at college to have an active social life? How many close friends were in your group in college? You don’t need to go Greek even at a school known for Greek life.

I went to a state flagship a million years ago and never attended a frat party. I did attend plenty of parties and sports events, etc. I found the non-Greek students to be more interesting and it was the 90s when alternative music, fashion, and the general “Whatever!” attitude of Gen X dominated, so that likely played a role in it.

Tour schools when they are in session and try to spend a weekend with any college students. My kids did that and they quickly ruled out some schools based on their overnight visits.

Anonymous wrote:It depends on the school and the vibe.

At Cornell, it dominates. At Vanderbilt, it dominates. At Duke, it's off campus, but it dominates social life/culture.

At Northwestern, it's growing. 3 more frats came back over the summer. Too much demand and not enough after the failed Abolish Greek Life movement.

I think social media (all those frat parties with big-name performers and the sorority dance/videos) has had an impact even at the most selective schools.

At Cornell it doesn’t dominate. I went to Cornell and my 3 kids went there. 3rd one is now a Freshman. One of them went Greek. Whoever said this know nothing about Cornell.

This site also may be of interest:

2026 Colleges with the Most Students in Fraternities | US News Rankings https://share.google/r9y8O0XpcjG84SNft

The answer is more nuanced than you might think.

It's not necessarily what %age of the school that directly participates vs. how much of the overall social life revolves around Greek parties.

I think at UPenn like 25% participate, but there is always lots going on at the school and the City that the 75% that don't directly participate don't feel like their experience is significantly impacted. Also, many of the parties are generally open to all.

It seems like other schools perhaps in more remote locations may have similar direct membership, but the social scene is dominated by the Frats and Sororities.

For perspective, this site extends to 22% sorority participation:

2026 Colleges with the Most Students in Sororities | US News Rankings https://share.google/4hX0V52ktSknW52j5

As an opinion, I believe your daughter would be fine at colleges outside of this group.

I went to NU where 35-40% is Greek and I did not rush. I did not feel it took away from my experience or that I was missing out on something. Not many people in the engineering school were in Greek life. The women who were in it were not the women I would have been close friends with anyway so it didn't make much difference. My roommate freshman year rushed and loved it. Every rush/sorority story she told me confirmed it was not my cup of tea. But she and I got along great.

So maybe it's school by school. I wonder about this also for my DD who doesn't want Greek life. But think about it, if 20-40% are Greek, still the majority are not, so probably no big deal.

It depends on the school and the vibe.

At Cornell, it dominates. At Vanderbilt, it dominates. At Duke, it's off campus, but it dominates social life/culture.

At Northwestern, it's growing. 3 more frats came back over the summer. Too much demand and not enough after the failed Abolish Greek Life movement.

I think social media (all those frat parties with big-name performers and the sorority dance/videos) has had an impact even at the most selective schools.

school by school
Cornell 20+%

Is there a percentage at which you'd expect a school's social life or vibe to be dominated by Greek life? Right now my DD isn't interested in going Greek so wouldn't want a school that revolves around Greek life culture. Or, even if it's only like 20% is it really school by school?