Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 12:55     Subject: College game is still rigged

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Article in Ny times.. by Jeff Selingo


“That mind-set makes acceptance to a highly selective college feel like a game. The rules are set by colleges, then carried out by admissions offices, and are stacked against the vast majority of teenagers. Fewer than a tenth of applicants win that prize of getting into one of the nation’s most selective colleges. If that weren’t enough, every year elite colleges move the goal line with new rules for getting across it.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/22/opinion/college-admissions-seniors-stats.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


I doubt most people will learn anything from his book or article. We keep playing this game and colleges keep winning..

Selingo says in this article you can’t do anything about the rules set by colleges. It’s called legislation. Abolish ED.


For the last time, anyone can do ED. You must simply run the NPC and be willing to accept the results.
However, if you are full pay (90K) and cannot afford it, nothing changes with ED vs RD at any of these schools. They still will not give you merit and make it "affordable".


You seem to not get that ED was created to benefit colleges — and not the student consumer.


So, I get that. But it also benefits students who know where they want to attend/have a top choice and are willing to commit. You can be done by Dec 15 and relax and enjoy your senior year.

And yes, most places with ED are private universities, they can do whatever they want to find the right class each year. They are businesses that want to fill exactly X students for the fall. This helps them hit that number more closely.

And yes you can do ED if you want. Nobody is forcing you to. But if you cannot afford it or need to "compare offers" then it's not for you. You can still apply RD/EA to as many places as you want. It's a choice you get to make
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 12:55     Subject: College game is still rigged

You think that the government playing around with admissions rules will help more normal kids get in? It will just make it more likely that connected kids bypass the rules altogether.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 12:45     Subject: College game is still rigged

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Article in Ny times.. by Jeff Selingo


“That mind-set makes acceptance to a highly selective college feel like a game. The rules are set by colleges, then carried out by admissions offices, and are stacked against the vast majority of teenagers. Fewer than a tenth of applicants win that prize of getting into one of the nation’s most selective colleges. If that weren’t enough, every year elite colleges move the goal line with new rules for getting across it.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/22/opinion/college-admissions-seniors-stats.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


I doubt most people will learn anything from his book or article. We keep playing this game and colleges keep winning..

Selingo says in this article you can’t do anything about the rules set by colleges. It’s called legislation. Abolish ED.


Nonsense, they are private institutions. People can choose to apply or not to apply but private schools have every right to create an admissions process that works for their interests.

If they want to refuse federal money — like Hillsdale — you have a point. Otherwise, you don’t.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 12:43     Subject: College game is still rigged

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Article in Ny times.. by Jeff Selingo


“That mind-set makes acceptance to a highly selective college feel like a game. The rules are set by colleges, then carried out by admissions offices, and are stacked against the vast majority of teenagers. Fewer than a tenth of applicants win that prize of getting into one of the nation’s most selective colleges. If that weren’t enough, every year elite colleges move the goal line with new rules for getting across it.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/22/opinion/college-admissions-seniors-stats.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


I doubt most people will learn anything from his book or article. We keep playing this game and colleges keep winning..

Selingo says in this article you can’t do anything about the rules set by colleges. It’s called legislation. Abolish ED.


Nonsense, they are private institutions. People can choose to apply or not to apply but private schools have every right to create an admissions process that works for their interests.

It is a simple act of Congress. Or Mass can do it at the state level to get it started. Or enforce existing anti-trust law.

While we are at it, limit waitlists to some reasonable number — not in the thousands.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 12:39     Subject: College game is still rigged

I'm so glad there are more people around here who have decided not to partake in the "top college" race.

People fixate on colleges that only education 5% of the students.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 12:37     Subject: College game is still rigged

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Article in Ny times.. by Jeff Selingo


“That mind-set makes acceptance to a highly selective college feel like a game. The rules are set by colleges, then carried out by admissions offices, and are stacked against the vast majority of teenagers. Fewer than a tenth of applicants win that prize of getting into one of the nation’s most selective colleges. If that weren’t enough, every year elite colleges move the goal line with new rules for getting across it.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/22/opinion/college-admissions-seniors-stats.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


I doubt most people will learn anything from his book or article. We keep playing this game and colleges keep winning..

Selingo says in this article you can’t do anything about the rules set by colleges. It’s called legislation. Abolish ED.


Nonsense, they are private institutions. People can choose to apply or not to apply but private schools have every right to create an admissions process that works for their interests.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 12:35     Subject: College game is still rigged

Selingo lost a lot of credibility when he published his list of Dream Schools.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 12:33     Subject: College game is still rigged

Stop the obsession with top-ranked colleges—or rankings altogether—and the problem goes away.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 12:32     Subject: College game is still rigged

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Article in Ny times.. by Jeff Selingo


“That mind-set makes acceptance to a highly selective college feel like a game. The rules are set by colleges, then carried out by admissions offices, and are stacked against the vast majority of teenagers. Fewer than a tenth of applicants win that prize of getting into one of the nation’s most selective colleges. If that weren’t enough, every year elite colleges move the goal line with new rules for getting across it.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/22/opinion/college-admissions-seniors-stats.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


I doubt most people will learn anything from his book or article. We keep playing this game and colleges keep winning..

Selingo says in this article you can’t do anything about the rules set by colleges. It’s called legislation. Abolish ED.


For the last time, anyone can do ED. You must simply run the NPC and be willing to accept the results.
However, if you are full pay (90K) and cannot afford it, nothing changes with ED vs RD at any of these schools. They still will not give you merit and make it "affordable".


You seem to not get that ED was created to benefit colleges — and not the student consumer.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 12:30     Subject: College game is still rigged

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Article in Ny times.. by Jeff Selingo


“That mind-set makes acceptance to a highly selective college feel like a game. The rules are set by colleges, then carried out by admissions offices, and are stacked against the vast majority of teenagers. Fewer than a tenth of applicants win that prize of getting into one of the nation’s most selective colleges. If that weren’t enough, every year elite colleges move the goal line with new rules for getting across it.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/22/opinion/college-admissions-seniors-stats.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


I doubt most people will learn anything from his book or article. We keep playing this game and colleges keep winning..

Selingo says in this article you can’t do anything about the rules set by colleges. It’s called legislation. Abolish ED.


For the last time, anyone can do ED. You must simply run the NPC and be willing to accept the results.
However, if you are full pay (90K) and cannot afford it, nothing changes with ED vs RD at any of these schools. They still will not give you merit and make it "affordable".

Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 12:28     Subject: College game is still rigged

Anonymous wrote:Article in Ny times.. by Jeff Selingo


“That mind-set makes acceptance to a highly selective college feel like a game. The rules are set by colleges, then carried out by admissions offices, and are stacked against the vast majority of teenagers. Fewer than a tenth of applicants win that prize of getting into one of the nation’s most selective colleges. If that weren’t enough, every year elite colleges move the goal line with new rules for getting across it.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/22/opinion/college-admissions-seniors-stats.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


I doubt most people will learn anything from his book or article. We keep playing this game and colleges keep winning..

Selingo says in this article you can’t do anything about the rules set by colleges. It’s called legislation. Abolish ED.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 12:27     Subject: Re:College game is still rigged

Focus on finding the actual best place for your kid, without concern for rankings. Have at least 3 Reaches/targets/safeties and make them all be places your kid wants to attend. You will be fine.
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 12:26     Subject: College game is still rigged

It's always been rigged at the top levels. We need the state schools to be very clear with admissions standards. Private institutions can do whatever and need to be called out for it but they are for profit places in many ways (or for growing endowment places)
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 12:24     Subject: College game is still rigged

Indeed
Anonymous
Post 09/23/2025 11:55     Subject: College game is still rigged

Article in Ny times.. by Jeff Selingo


“That mind-set makes acceptance to a highly selective college feel like a game. The rules are set by colleges, then carried out by admissions offices, and are stacked against the vast majority of teenagers. Fewer than a tenth of applicants win that prize of getting into one of the nation’s most selective colleges. If that weren’t enough, every year elite colleges move the goal line with new rules for getting across it.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/22/opinion/college-admissions-seniors-stats.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


I doubt most people will learn anything from his book or article. We keep playing this game and colleges keep winning..