Is this the same as FIT time?

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Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering, it turns out they got rid of the instructional WIN group for above level kids and those kids instead will spend WIN time working independently in the classroom while the teacher focuses on the below level kids. So I guess worksheets and computer games all year

Thanks for sharing your updates. Do you it’s your one-school specific decision or for every school? My DC at 4th grade got endless worksheet everyday during the WIN time. She liked CKLA last year but absolutely hates it this year so far. She said the problems are boring and repetitive.

Was your 4th grader centrally identified for literacy enrichment on that letter they sent out? If so it is a MCPS requirement that they get enrichment during WIN time. Otherwise I think it may be up to the school.

PP here. My DC has 97-99% on MAP-R, 99% on MAP-M, 99% on CoGAT. She is centrally identified and placed in compact math since starting of this school year (4th grade), but nothing for ELA. During BTSN, home teacher said they would arrange seats during WIN time and MAY assign something different, but so far my DC's feedback is WIN time is solely used for finishing class work, doing endless CKLA worksheet (is this the enrichment?) or picking whatever book you like to read quietly.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering, it turns out they got rid of the instructional WIN group for above level kids and those kids instead will spend WIN time working independently in the classroom while the teacher focuses on the below level kids. So I guess worksheets and computer games all year

Thanks for sharing your updates. Do you it’s your one-school specific decision or for every school? My DC at 4th grade got endless worksheet everyday during the WIN time. She liked CKLA last year but absolutely hates it this year so far. She said the problems are boring and repetitive.

Was your 4th grader centrally identified for literacy enrichment on that letter they sent out? If so it is a MCPS requirement that they get enrichment during WIN time. Otherwise I think it may be up to the school.

Can you tell me more about this? There’s another thread describing the books that former ELC kids are reading in WIN time and it definitely doesn’t sound like enrichment to me (at or below level books, not cohorted). It’s so strange. Our ELC cohort is a very reasonable class size (slightly bigger than an average class) but they are splitting them up for WIN time to read books intended for 9 year olds one chapter at a time.

My understanding is that MCPS has sent out guidance for the enrichment but I don't know what's in that over the course of the year. For now the main thing I notice is that my 4th grader has a novel assigned to read for homework (roughly 70 pages a week, so they'll probably get through about a book a month) and once a week they meet in small groups/"literature circles" to discuss it. For homework they are each given a different job to prepare for the discussion, like coming up with discussion questions, finding interesting vocabulary words to highlight, identifying connections between the book and the wider world, flagging sections they thought were most interesting for the group to discuss, etc. Not sure the lexile levels of the books but I believe one of them (Hello Universe) is in the 7th grade CKLA curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering, it turns out they got rid of the instructional WIN group for above level kids and those kids instead will spend WIN time working independently in the classroom while the teacher focuses on the below level kids. So I guess worksheets and computer games all year

Thanks for sharing your updates. Do you it’s your one-school specific decision or for every school? My DC at 4th grade got endless worksheet everyday during the WIN time. She liked CKLA last year but absolutely hates it this year so far. She said the problems are boring and repetitive.

Was your 4th grader centrally identified for literacy enrichment on that letter they sent out? If so it is a MCPS requirement that they get enrichment during WIN time. Otherwise I think it may be up to the school.

Can you tell me more about this? There’s another thread describing the books that former ELC kids are reading in WIN time and it definitely doesn’t sound like enrichment to me (at or below level books, not cohorted). It’s so strange. Our ELC cohort is a very reasonable class size (slightly bigger than an average class) but they are splitting them up for WIN time to read books intended for 9 year olds one chapter at a time.

Follow up- I guess I don’t know how RJ county defines “enrichment”. Is below level work enrichment?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering, it turns out they got rid of the instructional WIN group for above level kids and those kids instead will spend WIN time working independently in the classroom while the teacher focuses on the below level kids. So I guess worksheets and computer games all year

Thanks for sharing your updates. Do you it’s your one-school specific decision or for every school? My DC at 4th grade got endless worksheet everyday during the WIN time. She liked CKLA last year but absolutely hates it this year so far. She said the problems are boring and repetitive.

Was your 4th grader centrally identified for literacy enrichment on that letter they sent out? If so it is a MCPS requirement that they get enrichment during WIN time. Otherwise I think it may be up to the school.

Can you tell me more about this? There’s another thread describing the books that former ELC kids are reading in WIN time and it definitely doesn’t sound like enrichment to me (at or below level books, not cohorted). It’s so strange. Our ELC cohort is a very reasonable class size (slightly bigger than an average class) but they are splitting them up for WIN time to read books intended for 9 year olds one chapter at a time.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering, it turns out they got rid of the instructional WIN group for above level kids and those kids instead will spend WIN time working independently in the classroom while the teacher focuses on the below level kids. So I guess worksheets and computer games all year

Thanks for sharing your updates. Do you it’s your one-school specific decision or for every school? My DC at 4th grade got endless worksheet everyday during the WIN time. She liked CKLA last year but absolutely hates it this year so far. She said the problems are boring and repetitive.

Was your 4th grader centrally identified for literacy enrichment on that letter they sent out? If so it is a MCPS requirement that they get enrichment during WIN time. Otherwise I think it may be up to the school.

Anonymous wrote:In case anyone is wondering, it turns out they got rid of the instructional WIN group for above level kids and those kids instead will spend WIN time working independently in the classroom while the teacher focuses on the below level kids. So I guess worksheets and computer games all year

Thanks for sharing your updates. Do you it’s your one-school specific decision or for every school? My DC at 4th grade got endless worksheet everyday during the WIN time. She liked CKLA last year but absolutely hates it this year so far. She said the problems are boring and repetitive.

In case anyone is wondering, it turns out they got rid of the instructional WIN group for above level kids and those kids instead will spend WIN time working independently in the classroom while the teacher focuses on the below level kids. So I guess worksheets and computer games all year

FWIW all testing I have seen placed DC in 90th percentile or above. So I don’t think this is based on a random data point, unless it’s something I have not seen.

OP here, I do plan on asking some questions, though I don’t get the sense their actual teacher is making the decisions, since they shuffle the classes I think it’s grade wise and she’s quite junior compared to the rest of the team. It’s more that my child is in a classroom that is primarily doing something else; there really doesn’t seem to be any belief it’s actually what they “need” since literally no kid needs an extra worksheet or a random 45 minutes of screen time during the school day. I guess I’m trying to decide how much of a fuss to make given the teacher is generally good and the rest of the day seems fine.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, have you asked the teacher for info? I reached out to mine and she explained their approach and also said that it was based on last year’s testing, and that once the testing window closes they will be switching things up again

What was the approach? Even if they will be changing up the grouping, OP kid should be doin something meaningful doing WIN.

I just asked the teacher why my kid was placed in his particular group, given that those skills seemed to be fine. She said that they were still testing and so they had used last year's data. My kid had had a particularly off day during testing last year. She said when they were done with testing they would be reconfiguring groups so this would only be temporary. My kid did much better this year in testing, so he will be placed in an enrichment group.

Anonymous wrote:OP, have you asked the teacher for info? I reached out to mine and she explained their approach and also said that it was based on last year’s testing, and that once the testing window closes they will be switching things up again

What was the approach? Even if they will be changing up the grouping, OP kid should be doin something meaningful doing WIN.

OP, have you asked the teacher for info? I reached out to mine and she explained their approach and also said that it was based on last year’s testing, and that once the testing window closes they will be switching things up again

No information.

Does your school offer any transparency into how kids are put into groups or what they are getting to address their “needs”? My kid was told they were in a “fast reader” group last year but this year seems to play computer games and do online modules while their teacher focuses on the kids who need extra help. We received no information about how they were grouped and are confused if they are somehow now in a remedial group (which would surprise w) or there are multiple groups in their classroom during WIN time or basically what is going on. I really don’t love that they are getting plopped in front of a screen for so long.