Anonymous wrote:Redshirt/holdback/regrade parents are the worst.

All they want to do is make it so their kid is the oldest on the team so they'll get all the attention.

Don’t hate the player hate the game.

Redshirt/holdback/regrade parents are the worst.

All they want to do is make it so their kid is the oldest on the team so they'll get all the attention.

Anonymous wrote:This poster raises an interesting question that I don't believe I've seen answered on the crazy train threads. The crazy train thread is all focused on travel soccer.

For example, in Arlington, their rec league was always your grade. It was never birth year. I don't believe birth year was a factor at all. You signed up in kindergarten and progressed. It will probably remain that way. For most rec leagues, you're just playing other teams in your town or league so isn't it 100 percent the purview of the County or organization running the rec league?

I have two kids will fall birthdays.

One is a November 2011 and he was always one of the youngest in his class starting kindergarten at 4. He always played rec with his grade level and age was never a question.

One is a December 2015 and he was always one of the oldest in his class starting kindergarten at 5 turning 6 and always played rec with his grade level and age was never a question until club. His friends play with the 2016’s in club, he is with the 2015’s but okay together in rec.

I have not read all of the pages discussing this but I don’t think rec should be affected.

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Anonymous wrote:This poster raises an interesting question that I don't believe I've seen answered on the crazy train threads. The crazy train thread is all focused on travel soccer.

For example, in Arlington, their rec league was always your grade. It was never birth year. I don't believe birth year was a factor at all. You signed up in kindergarten and progressed. It will probably remain that way. For most rec leagues, you're just playing other teams in your town or league so isn't it 100 percent the purview of the County or organization running the rec league?

Yes I think our towns rec youth sports council will have the final say - but our town does have club teams for each age group (coached by volunteers still, but they do play in tournaments and I THINK they play in a grouping called EDP? Again my kids are small so not yet old enough for their U9 team tryouts). But whatever the grouping (EDP, ENCL, whatever) decides to do, I’m assuming our town will decide to do, or their club teams won’t be able to play anywhere… right?

Any club or travel team that's going to play under one of the official soccer umbrellas and play teams outside of their organization, it's going to be the strict date cut off as it has always been. If you are in a County big enough to just play teams within its own rec league, they can do whatever they feel like for rec teams.

I mean on the off chance anyone actually knows, our town is Catonsville, haha. I just don’t know any “important soccer people” in our town to ask and I’m truly just curious (and a little worried for my 2 smaller spring birthday kiddos if they’re going to let redshirted kids play in their grade instead of by their age- my kids aren’t going to be professionals or anything but I’d like them to at least play against kids that are roughly their age so they can have fun and not be totally squashed)

Anonymous wrote:This poster raises an interesting question that I don't believe I've seen answered on the crazy train threads. The crazy train thread is all focused on travel soccer.

For example, in Arlington, their rec league was always your grade. It was never birth year. I don't believe birth year was a factor at all. You signed up in kindergarten and progressed. It will probably remain that way. For most rec leagues, you're just playing other teams in your town or league so isn't it 100 percent the purview of the County or organization running the rec league?

Yes I think our towns rec youth sports council will have the final say - but our town does have club teams for each age group (coached by volunteers still, but they do play in tournaments and I THINK they play in a grouping called EDP? Again my kids are small so not yet old enough for their U9 team tryouts). But whatever the grouping (EDP, ENCL, whatever) decides to do, I’m assuming our town will decide to do, or their club teams won’t be able to play anywhere… right?

This poster raises an interesting question that I don't believe I've seen answered on the crazy train threads. The crazy train thread is all focused on travel soccer.

For example, in Arlington, their rec league was always your grade. It was never birth year. I don't believe birth year was a factor at all. You signed up in kindergarten and progressed. It will probably remain that way. For most rec leagues, you're just playing other teams in your town or league so isn't it 100 percent the purview of the County or organization running the rec league?

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to be a cutoff from 8/1 - 7/31. There will be no exceptions to align with the grade for those kids that were held back or started late. So there is no "red shirt" advantage that you see in other sports. They're just moving the 12 month window from 1/1- 12/31 to 8/1-7/31.

Thank you- this answers my question!

Just so you know - this is a topic that has spawned 1200+ posts (and many more on random threads) so if you want to read more, there is a lot of info right here!

lol, I figured, but I don’t usually come to the soccer forum.
This is for our towns rec league (and their associated “club” teams which are more low key than bigger clubs in the area- we are a Baltimore suburb) but the “club” teams still have tournaments etc so I’m assuming they’ll have to follow the rules of whatever the big clubs are doing. I do know some people seem outraged that their 7 year olds who are redshirted might have to play with the “grade up” and they’re fighting to let them play with their friends in their class. I see their point but I also think it would be kind of unfair- academics and social maturity aside, these kids are past the cut off and I don’t see how other towns teams would be okay with losing to a team where 1/3 of the kids on the team are redshirted.

Sorry *pages not posts. But glad you have your answer and please do read some of those other threads for the reasoning. There is no redshirt benefit at all

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to be a cutoff from 8/1 - 7/31. There will be no exceptions to align with the grade for those kids that were held back or started late. So there is no "red shirt" advantage that you see in other sports. They're just moving the 12 month window from 1/1- 12/31 to 8/1-7/31.

Thank you- this answers my question!

Just so you know - this is a topic that has spawned 1200+ posts (and many more on random threads) so if you want to read more, there is a lot of info right here!

Anonymous wrote:It is going to be a cutoff from 8/1 - 7/31. There will be no exceptions to align with the grade for those kids that were held back or started late. So there is no "red shirt" advantage that you see in other sports. They're just moving the 12 month window from 1/1- 12/31 to 8/1-7/31.

Thank you- this answers my question!

Anonymous wrote:Should be a 6/1 cutoff like swim.

I don’t actually care what the cut off date is -1/1, 6/1, 8/1, whatever. I just want to know if most towns that switch to “school year” actually take the kids grade in school into account. My neighbor seems to think her red shirted kids will play with kids in their grade but they are May/June birthdays and I was surprised that they’d be allowed to play with their redshirted grade, being that with birth year grouping they were such sticklers for kids NOT being allowed to play down a league even if they were the very youngest, and told her she is probably mistaken. But maybe IM mistaken?

It is going to be a cutoff from 8/1 - 7/31. There will be no exceptions to align with the grade for those kids that were held back or started late. So there is no "red shirt" advantage that you see in other sports. They're just moving the 12 month window from 1/1- 12/31 to 8/1-7/31.

Should be a 6/1 cutoff like swim.

Sorry if this has been discussed extensively already. If our town’s soccer teams are switching from birth year to school year, does this mean redshirted summer birthday kids will play with the grade they are actually in- making them 13-16 months older than some teammates- or will they play with the grade their birthdate corresponds with?

Basically will it just be a 9/1 cutoff instead of a 1/1 cutoff? Or will a kids actual grade in school be taken into account?