They did it on purpose to pressure the public to demand funding to expand the programs.

The CES selection process is terrible, but it makes more sense to fix it than to get rid of them entirely. There are some gifted kids who really can''t be well-served at their local school because there's only a handful of kids like them, either because they're profoundly gifted or because there is not a sizable peer group of moderately gifted kids at their school. Both of those categories of kids need CESes. But for the rest of them (moderately gifted kids at schools with a critical mass of similar kids), yes, having a strong, cohorted enriched literacy class should meet their needs just fine.

Anonymous wrote:When my kid was in CES, it included reading, writing, social studies, and science. Everything except math.

At CCES the math is further accelerated over normal 5/6 so they can add enrichment. They move at a faster pace so they can do additional projects.

I agree we should get rid of the CES program. We shouldn't be segregating kids so young.

Because CES parents are very vocal “haves” and most other parents are quiet “have nots.”

I 100 percent agree — my kid was never selected from the CES lottery or the 2 criteria-based MS magnets. I wish their local schools had advanced coursework. (We were at an ES that did not offer ELC.)

Is that even the case for compacted math? I was told my kid qualified but that too many other kids qualified too.

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Anonymous wrote:There is an enriched CKLA curriculum for 4th and 5th in our home school. Remains to be seen how good it is. But it's there.

Yes, but why does the CES still exist and this CKLA class is just a consolation prize that could go away at any time? Why do they bus some kids who qualify for the CES away from their home school to attend the CES because they won a lottery, but other equally qualified kids stay at the school and don’t get to partake in that curriculum because they didn’t win the lottery? MCPS has created a very unfair system when they could do something like they’ve done with compacted math where if you qualify, you get to take the class.

Anonymous wrote:When my kid was in CES, it included reading, writing, social studies, and science. Everything except math.

Makes it seem even more unfair.

When my kid was in CES, it included reading, writing, social studies, and science. Everything except math.

Anonymous wrote:There is an enriched CKLA curriculum for 4th and 5th in our home school. Remains to be seen how good it is. But it's there.

Yes, but why does the CES still exist and this CKLA class is just a consolation prize that could go away at any time? Why do they bus some kids who qualify for the CES away from their home school to attend the CES because they won a lottery, but other equally qualified kids stay at the school and don’t get to partake in that curriculum because they didn’t win the lottery? MCPS has created a very unfair system when they could do something like they’ve done with compacted math where if you qualify, you get to take the class.

Like I said, MCPS CO is awful at managing programs.

There is an enriched CKLA curriculum for 4th and 5th in our home school. Remains to be seen how good it is. But it's there.

Anonymous wrote:Amén- this happened to us- 98% percentile, told he was gifted. Lost lottery.

Then they even deleted the ELA curriculum.

This rationing of resources turns us all into stressed out crazy people.

Give me a schools voucher please! I’m ready to move to Trump land. Oops not really, not THAT crazy (yet).

Life in Trump Land is golden, come on over!

Amén- this happened to us- 98% percentile, told he was gifted. Lost lottery.

Then they even deleted the ELA curriculum.

This rationing of resources turns us all into stressed out crazy people.

Give me a schools voucher please! I’m ready to move to Trump land. Oops not really, not THAT crazy (yet).

Why MCPS keeps the CES around when they’ve moved to a lottery model instead of just offering an enriched language arts class at each school? Do they not realize how terribly unfair the whole system is for students who qualify but don’t place in the program due to the lottery, especially as MCPS continues to tinker with the alternative language arts option (ELC and now the new curriculum), while leaving the CES curriculum untouched?