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Anonymous wrote:The MSDE (state)-mandated switch to Integrated Algebra 1 will start in the 2027-28 school year for those having completed (or having shown mastery in exceptional cases) the pre-Algebra content that is the on-grade-level expectation for middle school through grade 8. This is whether completeing it under MCPS acceleration (PreAlgebra, the combination of AMP6+ and AMP7+ or Math 8 taken a year early due to prior acceleration in 4/5, 5/6 or otherwise).

Integrated Algebra 2 will follow in 2028-29. For a time, both the new Integrated Algebra 1 & 2 and the current Algebra 1, Geometry and Algebra 2 will be taught, depending on when the student completed pre-Algebra and began one or other sequence. For those taking the new courses, the state assessment will be administered at the end of Integrated Algebra 2.

Those currently in AMP6+ likely will take AMP7+ next year (covering 6th, 7th & 8th grade standards in 2 years), then Integrated Algebra 1 the following year. It is unclear if there will be honors versions of these.

Those currently in PreAlgebra (the current name of the more accelerated course that covers 7th & 8th grade standards in one year) likely will take Algebra 1 next year, followed by Geometry and Algebra 2 (likely honors versions of the latter two; there is no honors version of the current state-mandated Algebra 1 course).

Though completing the overall Algebra sequence at the same time, will be a disconnect between the two groups, as Integrated Algebra will not cover all of the topics that the current sequence does (e.g., Trigonometry). It is unclear how or whether MCPS and other MD county school systems will account for this difference in later courses, whether requiring repetition of content within a new PreCalc for those having taken the current sequence, insertion of a pre-PreCalc course for those having taken the newer sequence, or some other set of options, such as maintaining two versions of PreCalc until all taking the current sequence finish.

1. Thank you for the level of detail and insight. It's more than we've gotten from MCPS!

2. It sounds really complicated and messy to have the concurrent math tracks and classes. How will MCPS staff and register all of that?

Happy to support where I have gotten some insight, myself. (Caveat -- no ex cathedra, here; just another parent.)

I don't know if there are extra state funds associated with managing the change. I expect it likely will be an unfunded mandate that MCPS has to navigate. They've been on it for a little while, though, and there is some time (if barely, given long lead times for curriculum sourcing and the atypical nature of the courses in question) for full policy/planning/training/staff allocation.

I do hope that they don't end up with having the one class forced to repeat learning (especially as they generally have demonstrated affinity for and/or ability related to the subject already) or the other forced to slow-march. I think they can come up with a set of classes that would be flexible to student ability/need into the future, allowing a few extra periods of coverage for about two years to manage both old and new.

There won’t be any “repeat learning.” The few students affected will just be going deeper in the relevant math level.

Your two sentences contradict each other. Either there are students affected by being forced to repeat content or there aren't.

There would be, and they wouldn't be few. If the current forms of PreCalc are not preserved for a year after the new curriculum completes its implementation, but, instead, is altered for all such that it incorporates that content lost in the new IA curriculum, any students who would be finishing the current Algebra 2 (which already covers that content) the year prior would be repeating learning of that content.

If they move that content, instead, to a course between IA 2 and PreCalc, that might cause a slowdown (not as compared to current, but as compared to acceleration possible) for those of high ability coming out of IA2. However, that would allow those finishing Algebra 2 at the same time to continue with PreCalc without the repetition.

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Anonymous wrote:The MSDE (state)-mandated switch to Integrated Algebra 1 will start in the 2027-28 school year for those having completed (or having shown mastery in exceptional cases) the pre-Algebra content that is the on-grade-level expectation for middle school through grade 8. This is whether completeing it under MCPS acceleration (PreAlgebra, the combination of AMP6+ and AMP7+ or Math 8 taken a year early due to prior acceleration in 4/5, 5/6 or otherwise).

Integrated Algebra 2 will follow in 2028-29. For a time, both the new Integrated Algebra 1 & 2 and the current Algebra 1, Geometry and Algebra 2 will be taught, depending on when the student completed pre-Algebra and began one or other sequence. For those taking the new courses, the state assessment will be administered at the end of Integrated Algebra 2.

Those currently in AMP6+ likely will take AMP7+ next year (covering 6th, 7th & 8th grade standards in 2 years), then Integrated Algebra 1 the following year. It is unclear if there will be honors versions of these.

Those currently in PreAlgebra (the current name of the more accelerated course that covers 7th & 8th grade standards in one year) likely will take Algebra 1 next year, followed by Geometry and Algebra 2 (likely honors versions of the latter two; there is no honors version of the current state-mandated Algebra 1 course).

Though completing the overall Algebra sequence at the same time, will be a disconnect between the two groups, as Integrated Algebra will not cover all of the topics that the current sequence does (e.g., Trigonometry). It is unclear how or whether MCPS and other MD county school systems will account for this difference in later courses, whether requiring repetition of content within a new PreCalc for those having taken the current sequence, insertion of a pre-PreCalc course for those having taken the newer sequence, or some other set of options, such as maintaining two versions of PreCalc until all taking the current sequence finish.

1. Thank you for the level of detail and insight. It's more than we've gotten from MCPS!

2. It sounds really complicated and messy to have the concurrent math tracks and classes. How will MCPS staff and register all of that?

Happy to support where I have gotten some insight, myself. (Caveat -- no ex cathedra, here; just another parent.)

I don't know if there are extra state funds associated with managing the change. I expect it likely will be an unfunded mandate that MCPS has to navigate. They've been on it for a little while, though, and there is some time (if barely, given long lead times for curriculum sourcing and the atypical nature of the courses in question) for full policy/planning/training/staff allocation.

I do hope that they don't end up with having the one class forced to repeat learning (especially as they generally have demonstrated affinity for and/or ability related to the subject already) or the other forced to slow-march. I think they can come up with a set of classes that would be flexible to student ability/need into the future, allowing a few extra periods of coverage for about two years to manage both old and new.

There won’t be any “repeat learning.” The few students affected will just be going deeper in the relevant math level.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The MSDE (state)-mandated switch to Integrated Algebra 1 will start in the 2027-28 school year for those having completed (or having shown mastery in exceptional cases) the pre-Algebra content that is the on-grade-level expectation for middle school through grade 8. This is whether completeing it under MCPS acceleration (PreAlgebra, the combination of AMP6+ and AMP7+ or Math 8 taken a year early due to prior acceleration in 4/5, 5/6 or otherwise).

Integrated Algebra 2 will follow in 2028-29. For a time, both the new Integrated Algebra 1 & 2 and the current Algebra 1, Geometry and Algebra 2 will be taught, depending on when the student completed pre-Algebra and began one or other sequence. For those taking the new courses, the state assessment will be administered at the end of Integrated Algebra 2.

Those currently in AMP6+ likely will take AMP7+ next year (covering 6th, 7th & 8th grade standards in 2 years), then Integrated Algebra 1 the following year. It is unclear if there will be honors versions of these.

Those currently in PreAlgebra (the current name of the more accelerated course that covers 7th & 8th grade standards in one year) likely will take Algebra 1 next year, followed by Geometry and Algebra 2 (likely honors versions of the latter two; there is no honors version of the current state-mandated Algebra 1 course).

Though completing the overall Algebra sequence at the same time, will be a disconnect between the two groups, as Integrated Algebra will not cover all of the topics that the current sequence does (e.g., Trigonometry). It is unclear how or whether MCPS and other MD county school systems will account for this difference in later courses, whether requiring repetition of content within a new PreCalc for those having taken the current sequence, insertion of a pre-PreCalc course for those having taken the newer sequence, or some other set of options, such as maintaining two versions of PreCalc until all taking the current sequence finish.

1. Thank you for the level of detail and insight. It's more than we've gotten from MCPS!

2. It sounds really complicated and messy to have the concurrent math tracks and classes. How will MCPS staff and register all of that?

Happy to support where I have gotten some insight, myself. (Caveat -- no ex cathedra, here; just another parent.)

I don't know if there are extra state funds associated with managing the change. I expect it likely will be an unfunded mandate that MCPS has to navigate. They've been on it for a little while, though, and there is some time (if barely, given long lead times for curriculum sourcing and the atypical nature of the courses in question) for full policy/planning/training/staff allocation.

I do hope that they don't end up with having the one class forced to repeat learning (especially as they generally have demonstrated affinity for and/or ability related to the subject already) or the other forced to slow-march. I think they can come up with a set of classes that would be flexible to student ability/need into the future, allowing a few extra periods of coverage for about two years to manage both old and new.

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Anonymous wrote:So the current pre algebra students will do regular algebra 1 next year but the current AMP 6+ will do Integrated algebra in 8th? Or 7th?

2025-26 | 6th | AMP6+
2026-27 | 7th | AMP7+
2027-28 | 8th | Integrated Algebra 1
2028-29 | 9th | Integrated Algebra 2
2029-30 | 10th | [Uncertain as of yet]

Ok. That makes sense. So current AMP 6+ students will catch up with current pre algebra students in 10th grade when they both are in precalc.

That may be the case if they offer a flavor of PreCalc that re-incorporates the content removed from IA 1 & 2 that currently is in A1/Geo/A2. If they require another course after IA 2 but before PreCalc for that, then they would remain a couse behind those currently taking PreAlgebra. There could be other options, but this is not currently known, and the reason 10th was noted as "uncertain."

Kids are already struggling with precalc after taking A1, Geo, and A2. There is no way that MCOS is going to have kids go to precalc with even less. They will almost certainly add an integrated A3 class for kids on the calculus track. -NP

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Anonymous wrote:So the current pre algebra students will do regular algebra 1 next year but the current AMP 6+ will do Integrated algebra in 8th? Or 7th?

2025-26 | 6th | AMP6+
2026-27 | 7th | AMP7+
2027-28 | 8th | Integrated Algebra 1
2028-29 | 9th | Integrated Algebra 2
2029-30 | 10th | [Uncertain as of yet]

Ok. That makes sense. So current AMP 6+ students will catch up with current pre algebra students in 10th grade when they both are in precalc.

That may be the case if they offer a flavor of PreCalc that re-incorporates the content removed from IA 1 & 2 that currently is in A1/Geo/A2. If they require another course after IA 2 but before PreCalc for that, then they would remain a couse behind those currently taking PreAlgebra. There could be other options, but this is not currently known, and the reason 10th was noted as "uncertain."

Kids are already struggling with precalc after taking A1, Geo, and A2. There is no way that MCOS is going to have kids go to precalc with even less. They will almost certainly add an integrated A3 class for kids on the calculus track. -NP

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the current pre algebra students will do regular algebra 1 next year but the current AMP 6+ will do Integrated algebra in 8th? Or 7th?

2025-26 | 6th | AMP6+
2026-27 | 7th | AMP7+
2027-28 | 8th | Integrated Algebra 1
2028-29 | 9th | Integrated Algebra 2
2029-30 | 10th | [Uncertain as of yet]

Ok. That makes sense. So current AMP 6+ students will catch up with current pre algebra students in 10th grade when they both are in precalc.

That may be the case if they offer a flavor of PreCalc that re-incorporates the content removed from IA 1 & 2 that currently is in A1/Geo/A2. If they require another course after IA 2 but before PreCalc for that, then they would remain a couse behind those currently taking PreAlgebra. There could be other options, but this is not currently known, and the reason 10th was noted as "uncertain."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The MSDE (state)-mandated switch to Integrated Algebra 1 will start in the 2027-28 school year for those having completed (or having shown mastery in exceptional cases) the pre-Algebra content that is the on-grade-level expectation for middle school through grade 8. This is whether completeing it under MCPS acceleration (PreAlgebra, the combination of AMP6+ and AMP7+ or Math 8 taken a year early due to prior acceleration in 4/5, 5/6 or otherwise).

Integrated Algebra 2 will follow in 2028-29. For a time, both the new Integrated Algebra 1 & 2 and the current Algebra 1, Geometry and Algebra 2 will be taught, depending on when the student completed pre-Algebra and began one or other sequence. For those taking the new courses, the state assessment will be administered at the end of Integrated Algebra 2.

Those currently in AMP6+ likely will take AMP7+ next year (covering 6th, 7th & 8th grade standards in 2 years), then Integrated Algebra 1 the following year. It is unclear if there will be honors versions of these.

Those currently in PreAlgebra (the current name of the more accelerated course that covers 7th & 8th grade standards in one year) likely will take Algebra 1 next year, followed by Geometry and Algebra 2 (likely honors versions of the latter two; there is no honors version of the current state-mandated Algebra 1 course).

Though completing the overall Algebra sequence at the same time, will be a disconnect between the two groups, as Integrated Algebra will not cover all of the topics that the current sequence does (e.g., Trigonometry). It is unclear how or whether MCPS and other MD county school systems will account for this difference in later courses, whether requiring repetition of content within a new PreCalc for those having taken the current sequence, insertion of a pre-PreCalc course for those having taken the newer sequence, or some other set of options, such as maintaining two versions of PreCalc until all taking the current sequence finish.

1. Thank you for the level of detail and insight. It's more than we've gotten from MCPS!

2. It sounds really complicated and messy to have the concurrent math tracks and classes. How will MCPS staff and register all of that?

Anonymous wrote:The MSDE (state)-mandated switch to Integrated Algebra 1 will start in the 2027-28 school year for those having completed (or having shown mastery in exceptional cases) the pre-Algebra content that is the on-grade-level expectation for middle school through grade 8. This is whether completeing it under MCPS acceleration (PreAlgebra, the combination of AMP6+ and AMP7+ or Math 8 taken a year early due to prior acceleration in 4/5, 5/6 or otherwise).

Integrated Algebra 2 will follow in 2028-29. For a time, both the new Integrated Algebra 1 & 2 and the current Algebra 1, Geometry and Algebra 2 will be taught, depending on when the student completed pre-Algebra and began one or other sequence. For those taking the new courses, the state assessment will be administered at the end of Integrated Algebra 2.

Those currently in AMP6+ likely will take AMP7+ next year (covering 6th, 7th & 8th grade standards in 2 years), then Integrated Algebra 1 the following year. It is unclear if there will be honors versions of these.

Those currently in PreAlgebra (the current name of the more accelerated course that covers 7th & 8th grade standards in one year) likely will take Algebra 1 next year, followed by Geometry and Algebra 2 (likely honors versions of the latter two; there is no honors version of the current state-mandated Algebra 1 course).

Though completing the overall Algebra sequence at the same time, will be a disconnect between the two groups, as Integrated Algebra will not cover all of the topics that the current sequence does (e.g., Trigonometry). It is unclear how or whether MCPS and other MD county school systems will account for this difference in later courses, whether requiring repetition of content within a new PreCalc for those having taken the current sequence, insertion of a pre-PreCalc course for those having taken the newer sequence, or some other set of options, such as maintaining two versions of PreCalc until all taking the current sequence finish.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the current pre algebra students will do regular algebra 1 next year but the current AMP 6+ will do Integrated algebra in 8th? Or 7th?

2025-26 | 6th | AMP6+
2026-27 | 7th | AMP7+
2027-28 | 8th | Integrated Algebra 1
2028-29 | 9th | Integrated Algebra 2
2029-30 | 10th | [Uncertain as of yet]

Ok. That makes sense. So current AMP 6+ students will catch up with current pre algebra students in 10th grade when they both are in precalc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the current pre algebra students will do regular algebra 1 next year but the current AMP 6+ will do Integrated algebra in 8th? Or 7th?

2025-26 | 6th | AMP6+
2026-27 | 7th | AMP7+
2027-28 | 8th | Integrated Algebra 1
2028-29 | 9th | Integrated Algebra 2
2029-30 | 10th | [Uncertain as of yet]

Anonymous wrote:So the current pre algebra students will do regular algebra 1 next year but the current AMP 6+ will do Integrated algebra in 8th? Or 7th?