Anonymous wrote:How could you drive such a car? No, it's not worth it, at any price.

Because it's high mileage or because it's a minivan? Neither bothers me.

How could you drive such a car? No, it's not worth it, at any price.

I would've checked the Sienna out but they never seem to be available and with huge markups. Is Toyota deliberately keeping supply low here?

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Anonymous wrote:Does it make sense to buy a used Sienna now that they're all hybrid since 2021? We have one we got used now, generally don't mind paying for repairs, and keep vehicles for 200k+ miles and 10+ model years.

I'm wondering if the math for buying used say around 100k miles makes sense when there's a hybrid battery that could die and might prevent reaching 200k.

If it dies you can get it replaced. I just replaced hybrid battery on Avalon with 140K miles. Toyota hybrids don’t have a separate transmission, so while you may have to replace hybrid battery you won’t ever have to replace transmission.

Thanks. This is the kind of thing I'm looking for. Like is the hybrid battery the only big expensive thing that might die or is it almost inevitable? For instance, the Odyssey had a known timing belt/ water pump expensive replacement, but then also could have transmission issues, while the Sienna had a timing chain so a used Sienna seemed better than a used Odyssey. Did this math change due to the switch to all hybrid? Seems like you don't think so.

I’m on my third Odyssey. Love them. The timing belt/water pump is about $1800 and isn’t done until 80-100k miles. I just bought a 2025 Odyssey, top trim, and it was almost $10k cheaper than a top trim Sienna. $10k invested buys me a lot of gas and timing belts.

Anonymous wrote:If you are looking for a used Sienna with 100k miles it will be a 7-10 year old car, which means you have non hybrid versions.

Yes, if buying now or soon, that would work. I'm trying to plan ahead and save up for when the current one dies, which I hope is in a few more years.

If you are looking for a used Sienna with 100k miles it will be a 7-10 year old car, which means you have non hybrid versions.

Right, I think the Toyota hybrid drivetrain is very reliable, and the absence of a timing belt item on the 2025 Sienna Hybrid maintenance schedule seems to mean it also has a timing chain, not a belt.

The hybrid battery failure in my Avalon didn’t disable the car, rather it was still drivable with some sluggishness, and reduced mileage (but still not terrible by non-hybrid standards). We drove home from Pittsburgh in that condition, using an avoid-highways route. Even the S-mode shift ranges for engine braking worked, so I didn’t have ride the brakes on the US 30 steep downhills.

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Anonymous wrote:Does it make sense to buy a used Sienna now that they're all hybrid since 2021? We have one we got used now, generally don't mind paying for repairs, and keep vehicles for 200k+ miles and 10+ model years.

I'm wondering if the math for buying used say around 100k miles makes sense when there's a hybrid battery that could die and might prevent reaching 200k.

If it dies you can get it replaced. I just replaced hybrid battery on Avalon with 140K miles. Toyota hybrids don’t have a separate transmission, so while you may have to replace hybrid battery you won’t ever have to replace transmission.

Thanks. This is the kind of thing I'm looking for. Like is the hybrid battery the only big expensive thing that might die or is it almost inevitable? For instance, the Odyssey had a known timing belt/ water pump expensive replacement, but then also could have transmission issues, while the Sienna had a timing chain so a used Sienna seemed better than a used Odyssey. Did this math change due to the switch to all hybrid? Seems like you don't think so.

Want to add that regenerative braking on hybrids saves you money on brake jobs.

Anonymous wrote:Does it make sense to buy a used Sienna now that they're all hybrid since 2021? We have one we got used now, generally don't mind paying for repairs, and keep vehicles for 200k+ miles and 10+ model years.

I'm wondering if the math for buying used say around 100k miles makes sense when there's a hybrid battery that could die and might prevent reaching 200k.

If it dies you can get it replaced. I just replaced hybrid battery on Avalon with 140K miles. Toyota hybrids don’t have a separate transmission, so while you may have to replace hybrid battery you won’t ever have to replace transmission.

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been researching this and it’s better to buy new if you can swing it.

In general with markets now or specifically because of this hybrid issue?

Have an aversion to paying so much for a vehicle.

Anonymous wrote:I would not unless this is literally your only option. And even then I would look at a sedan or compact SUV.

We have another vehicle but also want a minivan and preferred Siennas to Odysseys in the past. We'd probably want a lower mileage Sienna even if we have to pay more before getting anything else.

I’ve been researching this and it’s better to buy new if you can swing it.

I would not unless this is literally your only option. And even then I would look at a sedan or compact SUV.

Does it make sense to buy a used Sienna now that they're all hybrid since 2021? We have one we got used now, generally don't mind paying for repairs, and keep vehicles for 200k+ miles and 10+ model years.

I'm wondering if the math for buying used say around 100k miles makes sense when there's a hybrid battery that could die and might prevent reaching 200k.