Anonymous wrote:How long did it take to find out what Fen-Phen was doing to people's heart valves and causing pulmonary hypertension?

5-10 years. 5 years for the word to start speading: it was early to mid 90's, so news took longer to spread than it does today. Phen fen was pulled in the late 90's after it was linked to serious and sometimes fatal heart and lung issues. My cousin had 3 heart attacks while on it. She was late 30's at the time.

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Anonymous wrote:Indeed. I can’t believe how many people here are taking these drugs despite the side effects.

It will be a case of fafo. I am happy for these people, if they are happy. I am on a regimen to lose 20 pounds and I never considered using these drugs. I suspect we will find out in 5 or so more years the true effects of these dugs on the digestive system. I'm thinking cancer will abound in this population: normal weight or barely overweight people with no comorbidities.

…says anonymous Dr. I.M. Ignorant on the Internet.

How long did it take to find out what Fen-Phen was doing to people's heart valves and causing pulmonary hypertension?

There is an ongoing lawsuit claiming that these drugs cause permanent blindness. That alone scares me like no other side effect.

Anonymous wrote:Indeed. I can’t believe how many people here are taking these drugs despite the side effects.

It will be a case of fafo. I am happy for these people, if they are happy. I am on a regimen to lose 20 pounds and I never considered using these drugs. I suspect we will find out in 5 or so more years the true effects of these dugs on the digestive system. I'm thinking cancer will abound in this population: normal weight or barely overweight people with no comorbidities.

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why a patient, who legitimately using these drugs due to diabetes, isn’t losing weight?

I can! It's because the drug is doing its job in regulating that person's metabolic system. The question you should be asking is - is the person's A1C decreased?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why a patient, who legitimately using these drugs due to diabetes, isn’t losing weight?

What drugs is everyone talking about? I’m taking Zepbound; I don’t think that was a diabetes drug.

Same thing as Monjaro. It started as a diabetes drug before being rebranded and labeled for weight loss. Same underlying drug

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why a patient, who legitimately using these drugs due to diabetes, isn’t losing weight?

What drugs is everyone talking about? I’m taking Zepbound; I don’t think that was a diabetes drug.

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why a patient, who legitimately using these drugs due to diabetes, isn’t losing weight?

Some don’t respond as much. If they’re eating the same and moving the same they’re not going to lose weight. Most of the drug’s effectiveness is appetite suppression.

Can someone explain why a patient, who legitimately using these drugs due to diabetes, isn’t losing weight?

I only mind when an OP is clearly asking for advice, besides, using a GLP1, and another comes in and offers that advice. Often it derails the conversation.

Anonymous wrote:Indeed. I can’t believe how many people here are taking these drugs despite the side effects.

That’s probably because the side effects are not common/severe. Remember this was a very common and successful diabetes drug for many years before getting the new indication.

I’ve been taking it for a few months and aside from one time where I got really nauseous after I ate far too much I’ve had no side effects other than losing about 12 pounds so far. Sorry. Just because you don’t want to take it or can’t afford it doesn’t mean it isn’t a lifesaver for others

Indeed. I can’t believe how many people here are taking these drugs despite the side effects.

That is all.