Anonymous
Post 01/25/2026 15:41     Subject: Honors Biology over summer or OPTG (online during school year)? Anyone do it?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone had experience with their kid doing this? Our high school has limited classes and blocked my rising Junior into a situation where they have to squeeze in the required biology class into summer or online this year or make a wild gamble that they'd be able to fit it into their schedule during a packed senior year. Wondering if anyone has any experience with these classes. How was taking the required End of Course Bio exam?

I hear AP Bio online with OPTG but since the kid is already doing a full load of IB classes this year, I'd think that'd be daunting.

Thanks for any input!


You can't take it for original credit over the summer, and OPTG is for people who are unable to attend regular school, not because they want to fill their schedule will electives.



So OP's child has no options in MCPS? That can't be true.


You can do some ap through outside vendors approved by the state at your cost.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2026 11:17     Subject: Honors Biology over summer or OPTG (online during school year)? Anyone do it?

Anonymous wrote:It’s online pathways to graduation. It’s a program to prevent kids from dropping out.

Yes the name implies that however the offer a lot of courses that go beyond the minimum for graduation and it allows an opportunity for those who want to retake a course online to improve a grade they might have done poorly due to an unusual circumstance (illness etc).

I am curious to hear from anyone who has a child who did this for grade improvement for a semester worth of math (not super challenging course but child got sick and the timing of illness resulted in a large impact on the grade and they got a C when they could have done better). Was the time/work load difficult on top of other AP and Honors courses during the regular school day?
How does the online in person part work if each student is working at their own pace outside of the virtual sessions?
Many thanks for any insight.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2025 07:42     Subject: Honors Biology over summer or OPTG (online during school year)? Anyone do it?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think you meant to say that since your kid had to be special and not follow the school recommended science pathways there are now having trouble fitting in a required course usually completed in 9th grade. You are unlikely to get a personal experience comment, because most people don’t do this.

If they are in an IBDP program, what science are they taking? AP Bio has Biology as a prerequisite and you don’t want to wait until senior year to take the MISA. I think your kid should take Honors Bio through OPTG during this school year and take the MISA in spring.


Not the OP, but my class of 2025 kid took Honors Physics as a freshman because it was offered as an option for freshman, as long as they were taking Algebra 2 concurrently. This was listed as an approved option when they registered in 8th grade.

But I gather it was a relatively new option, because the school didn’t seem to have fully thought through the whole pathway for IB students. Either that or they made some changes on the IB side of things, maybe when they got a new IB coordinator. I’m not sure. It did seem like the counselors were kind of scrambling to advise when my kid met with them to choose classes for 10th grade.

Either way, they ended up having to take both Honors Bio and Honors Chemistry in 10th grade in order to satisfy all the requirements and also be eligible to take an IB science course in 11th/12th. I gather some MCPS schools do allow students to take AP/IB science courses without the honors version as a prerequisite, but my kid was told it wasn’t allowed. If they hadn’t been doing IB, they would have just taken one science in 10th and the other in 11th.

If they hadn’t already been splitting health A and B over two different summers (the B course wasn’t ready until the summer before their senior year), I suspect my kid might have preferred to do Bio as a summer course. They found that Bio was much easier after having had physics, and taking it in conjunction with chemistry. A lot of the concepts the freshmen seemed to be struggling with were much easier to grasp because they had some foundational knowledge from the other science courses.


Wheaton engineering magnet does AP Physics in 9th and Biology and Chemistry in 10th. That's an option for other programs too.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2025 12:27     Subject: Re:Honors Biology over summer or OPTG (online during school year)? Anyone do it?

I would check on that info from your counselor, since this website says Bio can't be taken for original credit in the summer: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/extendedhours/summerschool/central-high-school-summer-school-program/
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2025 11:33     Subject: Honors Biology over summer or OPTG (online during school year)? Anyone do it?

Anonymous wrote:I think you meant to say that since your kid had to be special and not follow the school recommended science pathways there are now having trouble fitting in a required course usually completed in 9th grade. You are unlikely to get a personal experience comment, because most people don’t do this.

If they are in an IBDP program, what science are they taking? AP Bio has Biology as a prerequisite and you don’t want to wait until senior year to take the MISA. I think your kid should take Honors Bio through OPTG during this school year and take the MISA in spring.


Wow! You've made a lot of assumptions.

So I'm the OP. My kid did precisely the sequence of classes (science pathway) that was recommended by the school and IB advisers: MYIB Physics (like Hon Physics) in 9th grade and MYIB Chem (like Hon Chem) in 10th grade. The problem arose because the school only has one class period scheduled for too many required IB Diploma Program classes this coming school year. Science, English, Foreign Language, Theory of Knowledge and Bio were all trying to fit into too few class periods. I have no idea why they didn't deconflict this, but this pathway was the one recommended both as an incoming freshman and last year when kid was choosing classes. All these classes have to be taken this year and the easiest way to solve the problem for my kid this year was to switch from IB Bio to IB Chem.

BTW, according to counselor at school either OPTG or summer school honors bio should theoretically satisfy the MISA requirement. I was asking the community here to see if anyone had gone either route and had some experience on how it was taking the end of course test.

Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 14:03     Subject: Honors Biology over summer or OPTG (online during school year)? Anyone do it?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone had experience with their kid doing this? Our high school has limited classes and blocked my rising Junior into a situation where they have to squeeze in the required biology class into summer or online this year or make a wild gamble that they'd be able to fit it into their schedule during a packed senior year. Wondering if anyone has any experience with these classes. How was taking the required End of Course Bio exam?

I hear AP Bio online with OPTG but since the kid is already doing a full load of IB classes this year, I'd think that'd be daunting.

Thanks for any input!


You can't take it for original credit over the summer, and OPTG is for people who are unable to attend regular school, not because they want to fill their schedule will electives.



So OP's child has no options in MCPS? That can't be true.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 07:50     Subject: Honors Biology over summer or OPTG (online during school year)? Anyone do it?

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone had experience with their kid doing this? Our high school has limited classes and blocked my rising Junior into a situation where they have to squeeze in the required biology class into summer or online this year or make a wild gamble that they'd be able to fit it into their schedule during a packed senior year. Wondering if anyone has any experience with these classes. How was taking the required End of Course Bio exam?

I hear AP Bio online with OPTG but since the kid is already doing a full load of IB classes this year, I'd think that'd be daunting.

Thanks for any input!


You can't take it for original credit over the summer, and OPTG is for people who are unable to attend regular school, not because they want to fill their schedule will electives.

Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 20:20     Subject: Honors Biology over summer or OPTG (online during school year)? Anyone do it?

I would do it over the summer.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 15:28     Subject: Honors Biology over summer or OPTG (online during school year)? Anyone do it?

It’s online pathways to graduation. It’s a program to prevent kids from dropping out.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 15:11     Subject: Honors Biology over summer or OPTG (online during school year)? Anyone do it?

Anonymous wrote:I think you meant to say that since your kid had to be special and not follow the school recommended science pathways there are now having trouble fitting in a required course usually completed in 9th grade. You are unlikely to get a personal experience comment, because most people don’t do this.

If they are in an IBDP program, what science are they taking? AP Bio has Biology as a prerequisite and you don’t want to wait until senior year to take the MISA. I think your kid should take Honors Bio through OPTG during this school year and take the MISA in spring.


Not the OP, but my class of 2025 kid took Honors Physics as a freshman because it was offered as an option for freshman, as long as they were taking Algebra 2 concurrently. This was listed as an approved option when they registered in 8th grade.

But I gather it was a relatively new option, because the school didn’t seem to have fully thought through the whole pathway for IB students. Either that or they made some changes on the IB side of things, maybe when they got a new IB coordinator. I’m not sure. It did seem like the counselors were kind of scrambling to advise when my kid met with them to choose classes for 10th grade.

Either way, they ended up having to take both Honors Bio and Honors Chemistry in 10th grade in order to satisfy all the requirements and also be eligible to take an IB science course in 11th/12th. I gather some MCPS schools do allow students to take AP/IB science courses without the honors version as a prerequisite, but my kid was told it wasn’t allowed. If they hadn’t been doing IB, they would have just taken one science in 10th and the other in 11th.

If they hadn’t already been splitting health A and B over two different summers (the B course wasn’t ready until the summer before their senior year), I suspect my kid might have preferred to do Bio as a summer course. They found that Bio was much easier after having had physics, and taking it in conjunction with chemistry. A lot of the concepts the freshmen seemed to be struggling with were much easier to grasp because they had some foundational knowledge from the other science courses.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2025 14:01     Subject: Honors Biology over summer or OPTG (online during school year)? Anyone do it?

My kid did OPTG bio because they dropped in grade 9 due to a major health emergency. It is not a great way to master a subject but if your child is not a science focused person, it is an easy way to satisfy a graduation requirement.
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2025 19:46     Subject: Honors Biology over summer or OPTG (online during school year)? Anyone do it?

What is OPTG, and is it limited to MCPS?
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2025 19:39     Subject: Honors Biology over summer or OPTG (online during school year)? Anyone do it?

I think you meant to say that since your kid had to be special and not follow the school recommended science pathways there are now having trouble fitting in a required course usually completed in 9th grade. You are unlikely to get a personal experience comment, because most people don’t do this.

If they are in an IBDP program, what science are they taking? AP Bio has Biology as a prerequisite and you don’t want to wait until senior year to take the MISA. I think your kid should take Honors Bio through OPTG during this school year and take the MISA in spring.
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2025 17:17     Subject: Honors Biology over summer or OPTG (online during school year)? Anyone do it?

Has anyone had experience with their kid doing this? Our high school has limited classes and blocked my rising Junior into a situation where they have to squeeze in the required biology class into summer or online this year or make a wild gamble that they'd be able to fit it into their schedule during a packed senior year. Wondering if anyone has any experience with these classes. How was taking the required End of Course Bio exam?

I hear AP Bio online with OPTG but since the kid is already doing a full load of IB classes this year, I'd think that'd be daunting.

Thanks for any input!