Anonymous
08/21/2025 06:51
Subject: Holistic Employee Reviews
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope you’re joking.
I am not. The one question what job would you like to be at in 5-10 years within this company or outside this company they could not answer
I am like we can’t prepare you if you don’t tell us. Still silence.
I wouldn’t have been able to answer either. I’ve never been very good at knowing what jobs exist, let alone whether I’d want to do them.
If management wanted to help develop my career, it would be most useful to be asked what aspects of my job I enjoy doing, then identify positions within the company (or outside it?) that exist. Or even trying to fit my more obscure interests into my current job (say, I was hired as a legal editor but I love databases; is there a way to fit that in).
I think I’m not the only person who just isn’t temperamentally equipped to know where I want to be in 5 or 10 years.
This. I've never been that way and am late 50s now so don't see that changing. I know I don't want to be a CEO or have a board seat or Porsche convertible. I've been in the same job a dozen years. I'm fine staying in it until retirement in a decade or so. Seems odd to revamp an entire evaluation system because one person left for another job.
Anonymous
08/21/2025 06:33
Subject: Holistic Employee Reviews
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope you’re joking.
I am not. The one question what job would you like to be at in 5-10 years within this company or outside this company they could not answer
I am like we can’t prepare you if you don’t tell us. Still silence.
I wouldn’t have been able to answer either. I’ve never been very good at knowing what jobs exist, let alone whether I’d want to do them.
If management wanted to help develop my career, it would be most useful to be asked what aspects of my job I enjoy doing, then identify positions within the company (or outside it?) that exist. Or even trying to fit my more obscure interests into my current job (say, I was hired as a legal editor but I love databases; is there a way to fit that in).
I think I’m not the only person who just isn’t temperamentally equipped to know where I want to be in 5 or 10 years.
But whole point is what they want. I don’t care if they say astronaut, CEO, Pope.
One junior person actually could only articulate what they don’t want to do, I suggested three head of department roles based on skills they would be good at and based on two of roles person in role retiring in 3-5 years and third one they want to build it out and could use her.
I also told person in succession planning I put you down and I plan on retiring myself three or four years. Not very interested.
And they don’t want people staying at a level forever anymore. For instance she has a staff member who wants to get promoted. Easier for them if they get promoted. I want to hire more maybe get a bigger title and bring in more staff below current staff. I think it would be strange someone sits there as a roadblock.
We also want happy people. Tell me you want a mansion on River Road, marry a judge, be a judge, play for NY Yankees, have another kid, lose 20 pounds, backpack through Europe, buy. Porsche, get married. What do you want to do question I can’t do for you
It is obvious they are literally thinking it every day.
We will literally work phone, call connections to get you the job you want or what ever you want if we can do it.
One person was a 33 year old guy still lives at home in a junior crappy job. He had trouble answering. Does he want a wife, house, kids, VP title, be NFL QB? I will never know. He can’t even articulate anything.
Did we kill this out of people? In kindergarten we ask kids what do they want to do when they grow up and they gladly tell you.
These grownups can’t tell me what they want to do.
Guess my CEO is going to find out it won’t work trying to make people happy as they won’t tell you.
I am simple. Porsche convertible, CEO title, Board seat.
WTH is wrong with you OP
Anonymous
08/20/2025 23:19
Subject: Holistic Employee Reviews
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope you’re joking.
I am not. The one question what job would you like to be at in 5-10 years within this company or outside this company they could not answer
I am like we can’t prepare you if you don’t tell us. Still silence.
I wouldn’t have been able to answer either. I’ve never been very good at knowing what jobs exist, let alone whether I’d want to do them.
If management wanted to help develop my career, it would be most useful to be asked what aspects of my job I enjoy doing, then identify positions within the company (or outside it?) that exist. Or even trying to fit my more obscure interests into my current job (say, I was hired as a legal editor but I love databases; is there a way to fit that in).
I think I’m not the only person who just isn’t temperamentally equipped to know where I want to be in 5 or 10 years.
But whole point is what they want. I don’t care if they say astronaut, CEO, Pope.
One junior person actually could only articulate what they don’t want to do, I suggested three head of department roles based on skills they would be good at and based on two of roles person in role retiring in 3-5 years and third one they want to build it out and could use her.
I also told person in succession planning I put you down and I plan on retiring myself three or four years. Not very interested.
And they don’t want people staying at a level forever anymore. For instance she has a staff member who wants to get promoted. Easier for them if they get promoted. I want to hire more maybe get a bigger title and bring in more staff below current staff. I think it would be strange someone sits there as a roadblock.
We also want happy people. Tell me you want a mansion on River Road, marry a judge, be a judge, play for NY Yankees, have another kid, lose 20 pounds, backpack through Europe, buy. Porsche, get married. What do you want to do question I can’t do for you
It is obvious they are literally thinking it every day.
We will literally work phone, call connections to get you the job you want or what ever you want if we can do it.
One person was a 33 year old guy still lives at home in a junior crappy job. He had trouble answering. Does he want a wife, house, kids, VP title, be NFL QB? I will never know. He can’t even articulate anything.
Did we kill this out of people? In kindergarten we ask kids what do they want to do when they grow up and they gladly tell you.
These grownups can’t tell me what they want to do.
Guess my CEO is going to find out it won’t work trying to make people happy as they won’t tell you.
I am simple. Porsche convertible, CEO title, Board seat.
Anonymous
08/20/2025 07:07
Subject: Holistic Employee Reviews
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope you’re joking.
I am not. The one question what job would you like to be at in 5-10 years within this company or outside this company they could not answer
I am like we can’t prepare you if you don’t tell us. Still silence.
No one trusts management, OP. The answer you will get is whatever answer they think you want.
+1 To an employee, this sounds like a way to pile on more responsibilities without more pay or a better title. You can just dangle that carrot and make them think it’s all preparing them for the next big thing (which will probably never happen).
This reminds me of a VP at a former job who sent out a form to all staff to ask about their “hidden talents” they might want to share or areas of interest that they might want to learn more about, and she was SHOCKED when nobody submitted it.
Anonymous
08/20/2025 07:01
Subject: Holistic Employee Reviews
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope you’re joking.
I am not. The one question what job would you like to be at in 5-10 years within this company or outside this company they could not answer
I am like we can’t prepare you if you don’t tell us. Still silence.
No one trusts management, OP. The answer you will get is whatever answer they think you want.
Bingo. Stop wasting their time with this BS. What if one of them said they want your job? Would you prepare them to boot you out and replace you? They're not going to tell you anything.
+1
Anonymous
08/19/2025 20:50
Subject: Holistic Employee Reviews
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope you’re joking.
I am not. The one question what job would you like to be at in 5-10 years within this company or outside this company they could not answer
I am like we can’t prepare you if you don’t tell us. Still silence.
I wouldn’t have been able to answer either. I’ve never been very good at knowing what jobs exist, let alone whether I’d want to do them.
If management wanted to help develop my career, it would be most useful to be asked what aspects of my job I enjoy doing, then identify positions within the company (or outside it?) that exist. Or even trying to fit my more obscure interests into my current job (say, I was hired as a legal editor but I love databases; is there a way to fit that in).
I think I’m not the only person who just isn’t temperamentally equipped to know where I want to be in 5 or 10 years.
Anonymous
08/19/2025 20:43
Subject: Holistic Employee Reviews
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope you’re joking.
I am not. The one question what job would you like to be at in 5-10 years within this company or outside this company they could not answer
I am like we can’t prepare you if you don’t tell us. Still silence.
No one trusts management, OP. The answer you will get is whatever answer they think you want.
I agree with this.
Plus at my work, when I ask for small favors or projects, they never listen. Happens often. Way to make me feel like I don't matter.
Anonymous
08/19/2025 20:35
Subject: Holistic Employee Reviews
That’s incredibly personal question and there’s no way in hell I’d tell my boss even if I had a great answer. The person that said give me 3 months hopefully finds a new job by then without a psycho boss.
Anonymous
08/19/2025 20:32
Subject: Re:Holistic Employee Reviews
What’s wrong with just wanting to keep the job they already have? My young adult kids are embracing the “work to live” instead of the “live to work” approach and I think it’s very healthy. As long as a job provides some satisfaction and allows the employee to afford to live reasonably okay, why should they have to aspire to something more? Or why should they have to know what that is? Or why should they have to share it? A better question to ask would be: is there anything the company should be doing to maintain or enhance your interest in working here given how valuable you are?
Anonymous
08/19/2025 18:25
Subject: Holistic Employee Reviews
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope you’re joking.
I am not. The one question what job would you like to be at in 5-10 years within this company or outside this company they could not answer
I am like we can’t prepare you if you don’t tell us. Still silence.
No one trusts management, OP. The answer you will get is whatever answer they think you want.
Bingo. Stop wasting their time with this BS. What if one of them said they want your job? Would you prepare them to boot you out and replace you? They're not going to tell you anything.
I told them all they could have my job. I see the point last year had a staff quit go to new firm as wanted to learn IT. No peep of this year end review and I would have been more than happy to make it work. He actually said well if I had known. Well this is what CEO wants to get them
to speak up.
Anonymous
08/19/2025 10:24
Subject: Holistic Employee Reviews
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope you’re joking.
I am not. The one question what job would you like to be at in 5-10 years within this company or outside this company they could not answer
I am like we can’t prepare you if you don’t tell us. Still silence.
No one trusts management, OP. The answer you will get is whatever answer they think you want.
Bingo. Stop wasting their time with this BS. What if one of them said they want your job? Would you prepare them to boot you out and replace you? They're not going to tell you anything.
Anonymous
08/19/2025 10:21
Subject: Holistic Employee Reviews
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope you’re joking.
I am not. The one question what job would you like to be at in 5-10 years within this company or outside this company they could not answer
I am like we can’t prepare you if you don’t tell us. Still silence.
No one trusts management, OP. The answer you will get is whatever answer they think you want.
Anonymous
08/19/2025 08:54
Subject: Holistic Employee Reviews
Anonymous wrote:I hope you’re joking.
I am not. The one question what job would you like to be at in 5-10 years within this company or outside this company they could not answer
I am like we can’t prepare you if you don’t tell us. Still silence.
Anonymous
08/19/2025 08:23
Subject: Holistic Employee Reviews
I hope you’re joking.
Anonymous
08/19/2025 08:22
Subject: Holistic Employee Reviews
My CEO is on this new approach to employee reviews. We now meet four times a year with staff and we really find out what they want in life.
Everyone should have goals and even if leads to different careers or jobs other companies that is fine. That is good attrition and we are ok with that.
The one on one my staff in first two quarters was brutal. It took one full hour one guy just to get one nugget and another person full hour and finally I said well I need something. She said well I will think about it and tell you in three months.
Why do these people even come to work every day?
Has no one ever asked these people what they want in life?
Everyone should have goals and even if leads to different careers or jobs other companies that is fine. That is good attrition and we are ok with that.
The one on one my staff in first two quarters was brutal. It took one full hour one guy just to get one nugget and another person full hour and finally I said well I need something. She said well I will think about it and tell you in three months.
Why do these people even come to work every day?
Has no one ever asked these people what they want in life?