With this job market? I’d pursue the other internal role. There’s no guarantee you will find anything external anytime soon.

If your current supervisor is as hostile as you say, pursue the other job.

Anonymous wrote:I would try to leave the company. It's VERY hard to get out from underneath a toxic boss. And I think if you pursued the role on the other team, you'd still see your current boss and it would mess with your head.

This is so true. And if you change roles again there will be a question of why are you looking if you just changed roles. That said, if it’s been a year plus and you’ve been applying and interviewing externally with zero offers you may need to think about self preservation. I spent 2.5 years under a really, really toxic boss and it felt like the equivalent of 5-6 years.

Explore the opportunity with the other team.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you sure that it was "out of the blue" another VP approached you about a position??

Very good point. So you are saying I dont really have a choice right?

It's rather a convenient coincidence, no?

Anonymous wrote:Are you sure that it was "out of the blue" another VP approached you about a position??

Very good point. So you are saying I dont really have a choice right?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not following your conclusion. Why would it be better to keep the current role?

Because moving to the less resourced team might show that I couldnt hack the high pressure team

Who would see this? Unless it is very clear in your industry what constitutes a high pressure topic area/project and would go on your resume (seems unlikely?), this is just internal baloney no outside employer will recognize.

It would be very clear to anyone in the industry. I do want to move out of the company

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Anonymous wrote:Not following your conclusion. Why would it be better to keep the current role?

Because moving to the less resourced team might show that I couldnt hack the high pressure team

Who would see this? Unless it is very clear in your industry what constitutes a high pressure topic area/project and would go on your resume (seems unlikely?), this is just internal baloney no outside employer will recognize.

Anonymous wrote:I would try to leave the company. It's VERY hard to get out from underneath a toxic boss. And I think if you pursued the role on the other team, you'd still see your current boss and it would mess with your head.

It wouldn't mess with her head if she's emotionally resilient and tough.

I would try to leave the company. It's VERY hard to get out from underneath a toxic boss. And I think if you pursued the role on the other team, you'd still see your current boss and it would mess with your head.

Are you sure that it was "out of the blue" another VP approached you about a position??

Anonymous wrote:Not following your conclusion. Why would it be better to keep the current role?

Because moving to the less resourced team might show that I couldnt hack the high pressure team

Anonymous wrote:Are you looking out of the company actively?

Correct

Personally, I’ve found that having a toxic boss is incredibly bad for the quality of my work. If I stayed in the situation you describe, I’d wind up inadvertently sabotaging myself. So I would jump to the other team, even if doing so set my career plans back for a few more years.

Are you looking out of the company actively?

Not following your conclusion. Why would it be better to keep the current role?

I am 8 years into a mgr/senior mgr role in corporate. Last year, I was reorged into a new team. The VP of the new team is hostile to me. Really trying to make me quit. Many days I wonder why she just doesnt let me go. Part of it is because our team is really working on a priority high visibility project. I was reorged to her team for a particular expertise. To the outside world, I look like Im climbing the ladder. What I know to be true is a manager who tells me Im not ready for things Im already doing, hides information from me, cuts me from meetings even with stakeholders asking for me to be present. I have not gotten any feedback on my goals, no approvals on the system, no evaluations. She waits until the last minute to approve my expense reports. Last month, she conveniently forgot. So I now have to be hassled with late payments. Of course it doesnt cost me anything, but it does cost the company money, and me a headache. She is really very influential in the company. She just doesnt like me. She rolles her eyes when I present.

I have been applying externally but not landing anything. Out of the blue, another more junior VP from a different team messages me about a role in her team. The junior VP's team is less resourced than ours and is definitely a lower priority for the company.

If my goal is to move externally, wont it be better to stick
it out with my current role?