Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Metro has had its regional teams for many years but hasn’t developed players through them. You don’t see anyone from their regional teams moving up to their travel teams. At their clinics, they always place their travel players (and a few others) on the top court and pay little attention to the rest.
Yes, there are always good players from other clubs who want to join Metro Travel, but you really don’t want to be the third-best player in your position there. If you’re the third OH, MB, RS, or S on Metro Travel, you’ll likely spend the season standing on the sidelines and feeling miserable. You should aim to join a club where you’re one of the top two in your position. If that’s not Metro Travel, consider Paramount, VA Juniors, MD Juniors, VAE, etc. They all have strong track records of sending players to play in college.
Will Metro’s new National teams be successful? That depends on how much the club invests in those teams. However, I don’t think the club director has shown much interest in players who aren’t already at the top.
Additionally, unlike Paramount, which has its own 8-court gym and can host multiple teams training simultaneously in one location, Metro doesn’t have its own facility. I think this limits their ability to expand.
Metro has had a lot of players go on to play collegiate volleyball out of regional teams, especially out of North teams. If you look at Metro's college commitment page, there are 9-players from Metro regional teams going on to play collegiately out of the class of 2025 https://www.metrovbc.com/college-commitments. And there are many more from earlier classes. And players do move from Metro Regional teams to Travel - it's not necessarily a pipeline for developing talent for Travel teams, but standouts from Metro regional teams have made Travel teams numerous times.
The issue of large roster size and good players not getting lots of playing time is definitely a concern for Metro Travel teams, but I don't see Paramount as being any better. They also take 14 or 15 players on their 1s teams and certainly aren't known for making sure everyone gets significant playing time. Maybe more playing time opportunities open up when 1/3 of the team quits mid season.
As far as the facility goes, if almost 20 miles outside the beltway in Manassas works for you, I suppose that is an advantage, but Metro has long relationships with universities, schools, and churches and doesn't seem to have a big problem with finding gym space.
Having 12-18 year old girls walking out in spandex into the parts of DC that the Model School and the University of DC are located in is ideal?
I guess if Manassas is convenient for you, you don’t make it to DC much. The Model School is inside the fenced campus of Gallaudet University. UDC is in Van Ness between Cleveland Park and Chevy Chase. The median home price in that zip is almost $870,000. It’s a really nice neighborhood.
The 495 Express lanes will reach American Legion Bridge later this year. With EZPass-Flex, three people can travel on 495-Express and 66-Express to Manassas for free. Carpooling from Montgomery County to Paramount next club season will be easier.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Metro has had its regional teams for many years but hasn’t developed players through them. You don’t see anyone from their regional teams moving up to their travel teams. At their clinics, they always place their travel players (and a few others) on the top court and pay little attention to the rest.
Yes, there are always good players from other clubs who want to join Metro Travel, but you really don’t want to be the third-best player in your position there. If you’re the third OH, MB, RS, or S on Metro Travel, you’ll likely spend the season standing on the sidelines and feeling miserable. You should aim to join a club where you’re one of the top two in your position. If that’s not Metro Travel, consider Paramount, VA Juniors, MD Juniors, VAE, etc. They all have strong track records of sending players to play in college.
Will Metro’s new National teams be successful? That depends on how much the club invests in those teams. However, I don’t think the club director has shown much interest in players who aren’t already at the top.
Additionally, unlike Paramount, which has its own 8-court gym and can host multiple teams training simultaneously in one location, Metro doesn’t have its own facility. I think this limits their ability to expand.
Metro has had a lot of players go on to play collegiate volleyball out of regional teams, especially out of North teams. If you look at Metro's college commitment page, there are 9-players from Metro regional teams going on to play collegiately out of the class of 2025 https://www.metrovbc.com/college-commitments. And there are many more from earlier classes. And players do move from Metro Regional teams to Travel - it's not necessarily a pipeline for developing talent for Travel teams, but standouts from Metro regional teams have made Travel teams numerous times.
The issue of large roster size and good players not getting lots of playing time is definitely a concern for Metro Travel teams, but I don't see Paramount as being any better. They also take 14 or 15 players on their 1s teams and certainly aren't known for making sure everyone gets significant playing time. Maybe more playing time opportunities open up when 1/3 of the team quits mid season.
As far as the facility goes, if almost 20 miles outside the beltway in Manassas works for you, I suppose that is an advantage, but Metro has long relationships with universities, schools, and churches and doesn't seem to have a big problem with finding gym space.
Having 12-18 year old girls walking out in spandex into the parts of DC that the Model School and the University of DC are located in is ideal?
I guess if Manassas is convenient for you, you don’t make it to DC much. The Model School is inside the fenced campus of Gallaudet University. UDC is in Van Ness between Cleveland Park and Chevy Chase. The median home price in that zip is almost $870,000. It’s a really nice neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Metro has had its regional teams for many years but hasn’t developed players through them. You don’t see anyone from their regional teams moving up to their travel teams. At their clinics, they always place their travel players (and a few others) on the top court and pay little attention to the rest.
Yes, there are always good players from other clubs who want to join Metro Travel, but you really don’t want to be the third-best player in your position there. If you’re the third OH, MB, RS, or S on Metro Travel, you’ll likely spend the season standing on the sidelines and feeling miserable. You should aim to join a club where you’re one of the top two in your position. If that’s not Metro Travel, consider Paramount, VA Juniors, MD Juniors, VAE, etc. They all have strong track records of sending players to play in college.
Will Metro’s new National teams be successful? That depends on how much the club invests in those teams. However, I don’t think the club director has shown much interest in players who aren’t already at the top.
Additionally, unlike Paramount, which has its own 8-court gym and can host multiple teams training simultaneously in one location, Metro doesn’t have its own facility. I think this limits their ability to expand.
Metro has had a lot of players go on to play collegiate volleyball out of regional teams, especially out of North teams. If you look at Metro's college commitment page, there are 9-players from Metro regional teams going on to play collegiately out of the class of 2025 https://www.metrovbc.com/college-commitments. And there are many more from earlier classes. And players do move from Metro Regional teams to Travel - it's not necessarily a pipeline for developing talent for Travel teams, but standouts from Metro regional teams have made Travel teams numerous times.
The issue of large roster size and good players not getting lots of playing time is definitely a concern for Metro Travel teams, but I don't see Paramount as being any better. They also take 14 or 15 players on their 1s teams and certainly aren't known for making sure everyone gets significant playing time. Maybe more playing time opportunities open up when 1/3 of the team quits mid season.
As far as the facility goes, if almost 20 miles outside the beltway in Manassas works for you, I suppose that is an advantage, but Metro has long relationships with universities, schools, and churches and doesn't seem to have a big problem with finding gym space.
Having 12-18 year old girls walking out in spandex into the parts of DC that the Model School and the University of DC are located in is ideal?
I guess if Manassas is convenient for you, you don’t make it to DC much. The Model School is inside the fenced campus of Gallaudet University. UDC is in Van Ness between Cleveland Park and Chevy Chase. The median home price in that zip is almost $870,000. It’s a really nice neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Metro has had its regional teams for many years but hasn’t developed players through them. You don’t see anyone from their regional teams moving up to their travel teams. At their clinics, they always place their travel players (and a few others) on the top court and pay little attention to the rest.
Yes, there are always good players from other clubs who want to join Metro Travel, but you really don’t want to be the third-best player in your position there. If you’re the third OH, MB, RS, or S on Metro Travel, you’ll likely spend the season standing on the sidelines and feeling miserable. You should aim to join a club where you’re one of the top two in your position. If that’s not Metro Travel, consider Paramount, VA Juniors, MD Juniors, VAE, etc. They all have strong track records of sending players to play in college.
Will Metro’s new National teams be successful? That depends on how much the club invests in those teams. However, I don’t think the club director has shown much interest in players who aren’t already at the top.
Additionally, unlike Paramount, which has its own 8-court gym and can host multiple teams training simultaneously in one location, Metro doesn’t have its own facility. I think this limits their ability to expand.
Metro has had a lot of players go on to play collegiate volleyball out of regional teams, especially out of North teams. If you look at Metro's college commitment page, there are 9-players from Metro regional teams going on to play collegiately out of the class of 2025 https://www.metrovbc.com/college-commitments. And there are many more from earlier classes. And players do move from Metro Regional teams to Travel - it's not necessarily a pipeline for developing talent for Travel teams, but standouts from Metro regional teams have made Travel teams numerous times.
The issue of large roster size and good players not getting lots of playing time is definitely a concern for Metro Travel teams, but I don't see Paramount as being any better. They also take 14 or 15 players on their 1s teams and certainly aren't known for making sure everyone gets significant playing time. Maybe more playing time opportunities open up when 1/3 of the team quits mid season.
As far as the facility goes, if almost 20 miles outside the beltway in Manassas works for you, I suppose that is an advantage, but Metro has long relationships with universities, schools, and churches and doesn't seem to have a big problem with finding gym space.
Having 12-18 year old girls walking out in spandex into the parts of DC that the Model School and the University of DC are located in is ideal?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Metro has had its regional teams for many years but hasn’t developed players through them. You don’t see anyone from their regional teams moving up to their travel teams. At their clinics, they always place their travel players (and a few others) on the top court and pay little attention to the rest.
Yes, there are always good players from other clubs who want to join Metro Travel, but you really don’t want to be the third-best player in your position there. If you’re the third OH, MB, RS, or S on Metro Travel, you’ll likely spend the season standing on the sidelines and feeling miserable. You should aim to join a club where you’re one of the top two in your position. If that’s not Metro Travel, consider Paramount, VA Juniors, MD Juniors, VAE, etc. They all have strong track records of sending players to play in college.
Will Metro’s new National teams be successful? That depends on how much the club invests in those teams. However, I don’t think the club director has shown much interest in players who aren’t already at the top.
Additionally, unlike Paramount, which has its own 8-court gym and can host multiple teams training simultaneously in one location, Metro doesn’t have its own facility. I think this limits their ability to expand.
Metro has had a lot of players go on to play collegiate volleyball out of regional teams, especially out of North teams. If you look at Metro's college commitment page, there are 9-players from Metro regional teams going on to play collegiately out of the class of 2025 https://www.metrovbc.com/college-commitments. And there are many more from earlier classes. And players do move from Metro Regional teams to Travel - it's not necessarily a pipeline for developing talent for Travel teams, but standouts from Metro regional teams have made Travel teams numerous times.
The issue of large roster size and good players not getting lots of playing time is definitely a concern for Metro Travel teams, but I don't see Paramount as being any better. They also take 14 or 15 players on their 1s teams and certainly aren't known for making sure everyone gets significant playing time. Maybe more playing time opportunities open up when 1/3 of the team quits mid season.
As far as the facility goes, if almost 20 miles outside the beltway in Manassas works for you, I suppose that is an advantage, but Metro has long relationships with universities, schools, and churches and doesn't seem to have a big problem with finding gym space.
Anonymous wrote:I want to add that if you look at the top clubs in top volleyball regions—such as A5, Legacy, and Circle City—you’ll see that their top teams play in Open, their second teams in USA, and their third teams in American, Liberty, or Freedom divisions. They have a pyramid system where players can move up or down based on their development. This is a stable and proven system for success.
Paramount is moving in this direction. Their 15-1 team played in Open, 15-2 in National, 14-1 in National, and 14-2 in Freedom. Now, they’re adding 14-3 and 15-3 teams. With their own gym and the growing popularity of volleyball, it's not hard to predict that they'll add 11-3, 12-3, and 13-3 teams in the coming years.
Currently, Metro is only good for the top two players at each position and age group. It's not even good for the third-best players in those categories. Metro is adding 15-2, 16-2, and 17-2 teams, but as I wrote above, the success of these teams depends on how much the club invests in them—the quality of coaches they hire and the training they provide. They haven't done much to their regional teams.
If Metro and Paramount were two companies, I would buy Paramount's stock over Metro's.
Anonymous wrote:Metro has had its regional teams for many years but hasn’t developed players through them. You don’t see anyone from their regional teams moving up to their travel teams. At their clinics, they always place their travel players (and a few others) on the top court and pay little attention to the rest.
Yes, there are always good players from other clubs who want to join Metro Travel, but you really don’t want to be the third-best player in your position there. If you’re the third OH, MB, RS, or S on Metro Travel, you’ll likely spend the season standing on the sidelines and feeling miserable. You should aim to join a club where you’re one of the top two in your position. If that’s not Metro Travel, consider Paramount, VA Juniors, MD Juniors, VAE, etc. They all have strong track records of sending players to play in college.
Will Metro’s new National teams be successful? That depends on how much the club invests in those teams. However, I don’t think the club director has shown much interest in players who aren’t already at the top.
Additionally, unlike Paramount, which has its own 8-court gym and can host multiple teams training simultaneously in one location, Metro doesn’t have its own facility. I think this limits their ability to expand.
FPYCparent wrote:I appreciate some of the context. Thanks!
Prior to 2015, what other CHRVA clubs produced teams that were consistently competitive? I've read hints here that suggest Virginia Juniors teams might have been competitive, but were they neck-and-neck with Metro? How did MD-based clubs fare in the "before times?" I recognize that the overall popularity of volleyball has boomed since 2020 ... or maybe 2015, so there may not have been as many clubs/teams in that era.
Without taking too much away from the primary topic, I'd also be interested in the stories of clubs have emerged/merged/whatever over time. I think I understand that an iteration of EC Power was acquired and moved to The St. James, but then some parts may have since splintered off (Mojo?). Are there similar stories for other CHRVA clubs that may have contributed the current state with Metro and Paramount seemingly on top in nearly every age group?