Also, when making division decisions, does the league look at kids who will be at the top versus the bottom of their age group? On our team, that makes a huge difference. One year we are very competitive, then the next year we are much less competitive, all because our kids tend to age up all at the same time.

I wonder if NVSL has ever matched the MCSL computer method to its human method and compared where MCSL would have placed teams in an after-the-face way.

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Anonymous wrote:Hahaha. Our team also went 0 for 5, and I just saw every division 1 to 8, 10 to 12, 14 to 17 has a team that lost every single meet.

Misery loves company. How was the vibe among my fellow losers?

We were clearly put in the wrong division, losing every meet but one by 100-150 points. The kids cheered when we only lost by less than 100. lol. We were so clearly misplaced with no chance of winning any meet that everyone knew this going in.

We were also really clearly misplaced - we went 5-0 and it was a slaughter every time. To the point that it really just wasn't as fun this year. I wonder how often the seeding committee messes up. Hope they move us back up next year.

Fair Oaks? Seems FO is really top-heavy though, so my guess may be wrong.

Anonymous wrote:Do teams always move one division at a time? My kids’ team was 0-5 this year, so I imagine they’ll move down and I wonder how much!

Fairfax Station went 1-2-3-7-11-9-7-6-8. So basically all over the map. And Fairfax went 3-2-8-7-6-5. Fairfax Club Estates went 13-12-11-6-10-13-12. Orange Hunt followed a more linear path at 7-9-10-8-6-5-4-3-4. Lakeview tends to jump in twos: 15-13-10-8-6-8-6-8-9-8. The teams in that area of the county are a bit more volatile (and somewhat smaller) than the waiting-list teams closer to the river, so there is more movement.

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Anonymous wrote:Hahaha. Our team also went 0 for 5, and I just saw every division 1 to 8, 10 to 12, 14 to 17 has a team that lost every single meet.

Misery loves company. How was the vibe among my fellow losers?

We were clearly put in the wrong division, losing every meet but one by 100-150 points. The kids cheered when we only lost by less than 100. lol. We were so clearly misplaced with no chance of winning any meet that everyone knew this going in.

We were also really clearly misplaced - we went 5-0 and it was a slaughter every time. To the point that it really just wasn't as fun this year. I wonder how often the seeding committee messes up. Hope they move us back up next year.

Anonymous wrote:Do teams always move one division at a time? My kids’ team was 0-5 this year, so I imagine they’ll move down and I wonder how much!

Old Keene Mill went 13 to 15 to 14 to 15 to 13 to 11 to 8 to 5 to 3 to 2 to 1. Fox Hunt has recently gone from 14 to 12 to 10 to 8 to 6.

Anonymous wrote:Do teams always move one division at a time? My kids’ team was 0-5 this year, so I imagine they’ll move down and I wonder how much!

Sideburn Run went from 🎶9 to 5🎶 2018-2019 (after a bunch of great Mako swimmers, and a coach with a bunch of their own great swimmers, switched to SR to swim), and then fell from 4 to 11 between 2021-2022 (when said swimmers were largely gone).

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Anonymous wrote:Hahaha. Our team also went 0 for 5, and I just saw every division 1 to 8, 10 to 12, 14 to 17 has a team that lost every single meet.

Misery loves company. How was the vibe among my fellow losers?

We were clearly put in the wrong division, losing every meet but one by 100-150 points. The kids cheered when we only lost by less than 100. lol. We were so clearly misplaced with no chance of winning any meet that everyone knew this going in.

Virginia Run?

Anonymous wrote:Hahaha. Our team also went 0 for 5, and I just saw every division 1 to 8, 10 to 12, 14 to 17 has a team that lost every single meet.

Misery loves company. How was the vibe among my fellow losers?

We were clearly put in the wrong division, losing every meet but one by 100-150 points. The kids cheered when we only lost by less than 100. lol. We were so clearly misplaced with no chance of winning any meet that everyone knew this going in.

Hahaha. Our team also went 0 for 5, and I just saw every division 1 to 8, 10 to 12, 14 to 17 has a team that lost every single meet.

Misery loves company. How was the vibe among my fellow losers?

Anonymous wrote:Do teams always move one division at a time? My kids’ team was 0-5 this year, so I imagine they’ll move down and I wonder how much!

Ours was too and we graduated two of the three highest point scorers on the team. I think we need to drop two divisions.

Usually down or up two with 0-5 or 5-0-- but three or just one are options depending on the other teams in the mix.

Do teams always move one division at a time? My kids’ team was 0-5 this year, so I imagine they’ll move down and I wonder how much!

No, points really don't matter at all. Two teams with the same w/l record in a division tend to go to the same next division even if one had a lot more points.

Do points matter as much for division placement as W/L record? I know it is months too early to speculate about 2026 but curious what typically happens when teams point standings and W/L records are not the same.