Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t people people hear about human trafficking via surrogacy and are like “eh NBD”.

The world is truly f***ed.

Who is saying this is no big deal you dimwit? No one!!!

However, there is a place for ethical surrogacy. Find better examples than this if you want to advocate against surrogacy.

Yeah, like when an actress doesn’t want to risk stretchmarks?

You must live under a rock. My boss and his wife are expecting a child via a surrogate. She almost died giving birth to their first child.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t people people hear about human trafficking via surrogacy and are like “eh NBD”.

The world is truly f***ed.

Who is saying this is no big deal you dimwit? No one!!!

However, there is a place for ethical surrogacy. Find better examples than this if you want to advocate against surrogacy.

Yeah, like when an actress doesn’t want to risk stretchmarks?

I would say infertility

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t people people hear about human trafficking via surrogacy and are like “eh NBD”.

The world is truly f***ed.

Who is saying this is no big deal you dimwit? No one!!!

However, there is a place for ethical surrogacy. Find better examples than this if you want to advocate against surrogacy.

Yeah, like when an actress doesn’t want to risk stretchmarks?

Anonymous wrote:I can’t people people hear about human trafficking via surrogacy and are like “eh NBD”.

The world is truly f***ed.

Who is saying this is no big deal you dimwit? No one!!!

However, there is a place for ethical surrogacy. Find better examples than this if you want to advocate against surrogacy.

"How nannies do we need for 20 children?"

"One seems like enough."

It does give off vibes of being a for-profit enterprise, because no mother who want a large family for herself would condone such abuse of her children.

How sad for these poor babies.

I can’t people people hear about human trafficking via surrogacy and are like “eh NBD”.

The world is truly f***ed.

Anonymous wrote:How did they afford all those kids?! It's like 100k to have a surrogate.

I too see nothing wrong with surrogacy. I've actually known several women who were surrogates. One was a SAHM who already had 2 kids. She enjoyed being pregnant and had easy pregnancies/labors. She joked about it being easy money for her and she liked helping infertile couples. These women weren't trafficked or in any way forced to be surrogates. I debated doing it myself too. I had some seriously easy pregnancies and really liked being pregnant.

This is a criminal business. They are probably using trafficked women and illegal immigrants to force them to have babies. Their own home grown baby making factory and using that front to sell these kids.

Read the description of the home in the article -

"Neighbors say the massive 10,000-square-foot property, worth approximately $4 million, has nine bedrooms and is set up like a hotel, with a lobby and suite-like rooms.

"And (it has) like a round, what I can only describe as a hotel desk and a gentleman sitting behind it like a clerk," said Art Romero, who lives in the area. "

This sounds more like a trafficking issue than a surrogacy issue.

Anonymous wrote:I believe surrogacy should be banned, but example does not really seem to be an issue with surrogacy so much as plain old child neglect.

No. This is not child neglect. These are criminals. The man is 65 and woman is 38 years old. They are having 20+ kids from various surrogacies?

They are paying surrogates to have their kids so that they can sell them. This is a baby factory and who are these people who are providing childcare?

Surrogacy is not an issue here.

OR these are people who are the front for rich Chinese in China to have kids here by surrogates so that they can have American citizenship. This is an illegal and criminal business.

How did they afford all those kids?! It's like 100k to have a surrogate.

I too see nothing wrong with surrogacy. I've actually known several women who were surrogates. One was a SAHM who already had 2 kids. She enjoyed being pregnant and had easy pregnancies/labors. She joked about it being easy money for her and she liked helping infertile couples. These women weren't trafficked or in any way forced to be surrogates. I debated doing it myself too. I had some seriously easy pregnancies and really liked being pregnant.

They probably slipped through the cracks by doing it in multiple states. The problem with surrogacy laws being a patchwork is it's likely none of these state systems communicated with each other.

This has nothing to do with surrogacy.

But for the record, I see nothing wrong with surrogacy.

I believe surrogacy should be banned, but example does not really seem to be an issue with surrogacy so much as plain old child neglect.

They really need to start regulating this more. It’s like the Wild West.

“A Southern California couple has been charged with child endangerment and neglect after more than 20 children were removed from their home in Arcadia, most of whom were born to surrogate mothers, according to police.

The children ranged in age from two-months to 13-years-old, but most were between one-year and three-years-old, the Arcadia Police Department said.”

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/losangeles/news/arcadia-surrogate-children-seized-child-endangerment-neglect/