Anonymous
07/15/2025 05:37
Subject: Trump’s Russua Reveal
The biggest takeaway is the entire “Trump-Russia collusion” narrative really was just a hoax.
Anonymous
07/15/2025 00:45
Subject: Re:Trump’s Russua Reveal
This is a very interesting moment in time. I think the biggest takeaway is that everything is personal with Trump. After every conversation with Trump, Putin would immediately launch massive missile and drone attacks on civilians in Ukraine. That's a very Russian thing to do. The point is to humiliate. And finally Trump woke up to the reality of Russians. They will humiliate Trump every chance they get. And finally Trump is, like, uh, I don't like this dynamic.
This tells me there's no pee tape or other compromising thing that Putin is holding over him. Trump was merely a naive fool who likes authoritarians. And Putin knew that and played him. Now Trump has woken up. He's been insulted and played the fool for the last six months. I get sending air defense, but I really hope the US "sells" the more offensive weapons. Like a lot more ATACMs for the HIMARS. And load those F-16s with the things that are going to hurt. Angry Trump is a good Trump in this situation.
This tells me there's no pee tape or other compromising thing that Putin is holding over him. Trump was merely a naive fool who likes authoritarians. And Putin knew that and played him. Now Trump has woken up. He's been insulted and played the fool for the last six months. I get sending air defense, but I really hope the US "sells" the more offensive weapons. Like a lot more ATACMs for the HIMARS. And load those F-16s with the things that are going to hurt. Angry Trump is a good Trump in this situation.
Anonymous
07/15/2025 00:29
Subject: Re:Trump’s Russua Reveal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If that historian only started in 1250 he left many very important details out.
Russia was founded by Ukraine. Seriously.
Kievan Rus, centered in Kyiv, was the first major East Slavic state, founded in the 9th century by the Varangian prince Rurik and his successors.
It united Slavic tribes across what is now Ukraine, Belarus, and western Russia, with Kyiv as its political and cultural heart.
The Russian state emerged later, after the Mongol invasions fractured Kievan Rus in the 13th century. The Grand Duchy of Moscow gradually rose to prominence and claimed succession from Kievan Rus.
Kyiv was the original capital of the Rus’ lands, not Moscow.
The Rurik dynasty, which began in Novgorod and Kyiv, continued through Moscow’s rulers, including Ivan IV (the Terrible), who declared himself Tsar of all Rus.
Modern Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus all trace cultural and historical roots to Kievan Rus, but Russia adopted the name “Rus” centuries later, reinforcing the idea that it inherited the legacy. Russia did not originate it. But Russian historians love to lie and pretend none of that happened and that Ukraine has no history or culture or legacy. Moscow was nothing but an empty swamp hundreds of years after Kyiv was founded. The trident symbol of Ukraine literally dates back to the Kievan Rus founders of Ukraine hundreds of years before Russia existed.
Do you really expect to be taken seriously with this detailed refutation of points you made up and attributed to a historian whose lecture you weren't even there to hear?
I'll buy their take over yours, Boris
Glad you didn't bother denying you made up points to refute. Terrible waste of your own time, but I guess you had nothing better to do.
Anonymous
07/15/2025 00:02
Subject: Re:Trump’s Russua Reveal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If that historian only started in 1250 he left many very important details out.
Russia was founded by Ukraine. Seriously.
Kievan Rus, centered in Kyiv, was the first major East Slavic state, founded in the 9th century by the Varangian prince Rurik and his successors.
It united Slavic tribes across what is now Ukraine, Belarus, and western Russia, with Kyiv as its political and cultural heart.
The Russian state emerged later, after the Mongol invasions fractured Kievan Rus in the 13th century. The Grand Duchy of Moscow gradually rose to prominence and claimed succession from Kievan Rus.
Kyiv was the original capital of the Rus’ lands, not Moscow.
The Rurik dynasty, which began in Novgorod and Kyiv, continued through Moscow’s rulers, including Ivan IV (the Terrible), who declared himself Tsar of all Rus.
Modern Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus all trace cultural and historical roots to Kievan Rus, but Russia adopted the name “Rus” centuries later, reinforcing the idea that it inherited the legacy. Russia did not originate it. But Russian historians love to lie and pretend none of that happened and that Ukraine has no history or culture or legacy. Moscow was nothing but an empty swamp hundreds of years after Kyiv was founded. The trident symbol of Ukraine literally dates back to the Kievan Rus founders of Ukraine hundreds of years before Russia existed.
Do you really expect to be taken seriously with this detailed refutation of points you made up and attributed to a historian whose lecture you weren't even there to hear?
I'll buy their take over yours, Boris
Anonymous
07/14/2025 21:08
Subject: Re:Trump’s Russua Reveal
Anonymous wrote:
If that historian only started in 1250 he left many very important details out.
Russia was founded by Ukraine. Seriously.
Kievan Rus, centered in Kyiv, was the first major East Slavic state, founded in the 9th century by the Varangian prince Rurik and his successors.
It united Slavic tribes across what is now Ukraine, Belarus, and western Russia, with Kyiv as its political and cultural heart.
The Russian state emerged later, after the Mongol invasions fractured Kievan Rus in the 13th century. The Grand Duchy of Moscow gradually rose to prominence and claimed succession from Kievan Rus.
Kyiv was the original capital of the Rus’ lands, not Moscow.
The Rurik dynasty, which began in Novgorod and Kyiv, continued through Moscow’s rulers, including Ivan IV (the Terrible), who declared himself Tsar of all Rus.
Modern Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus all trace cultural and historical roots to Kievan Rus, but Russia adopted the name “Rus” centuries later, reinforcing the idea that it inherited the legacy. Russia did not originate it. But Russian historians love to lie and pretend none of that happened and that Ukraine has no history or culture or legacy. Moscow was nothing but an empty swamp hundreds of years after Kyiv was founded. The trident symbol of Ukraine literally dates back to the Kievan Rus founders of Ukraine hundreds of years before Russia existed.
Do you really expect to be taken seriously with this detailed refutation of points you made up and attributed to a historian whose lecture you weren't even there to hear?
Anonymous
07/14/2025 21:05
Subject: Re:Trump’s Russua Reveal
If that historian only started in 1250 he left many very important details out.
Russia was founded by Ukraine. Seriously.
Kievan Rus, centered in Kyiv, was the first major East Slavic state, founded in the 9th century by the Varangian prince Rurik and his successors.
It united Slavic tribes across what is now Ukraine, Belarus, and western Russia, with Kyiv as its political and cultural heart.
The Russian state emerged later, after the Mongol invasions fractured Kievan Rus in the 13th century. The Grand Duchy of Moscow gradually rose to prominence and claimed succession from Kievan Rus.
Kyiv was the original capital of the Rus’ lands, not Moscow.
The Rurik dynasty, which began in Novgorod and Kyiv, continued through Moscow’s rulers, including Ivan IV (the Terrible), who declared himself Tsar of all Rus.
Modern Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus all trace cultural and historical roots to Kievan Rus, but Russia adopted the name “Rus” centuries later, reinforcing the idea that it inherited the legacy. Russia did not originate it. But Russian historians love to lie and pretend none of that happened and that Ukraine has no history or culture or legacy. Moscow was nothing but an empty swamp hundreds of years after Kyiv was founded. The trident symbol of Ukraine literally dates back to the Kievan Rus founders of Ukraine hundreds of years before Russia existed.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 20:46
Subject: Re:Trump’s Russua Reveal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Omg I'm CRYING with laughter both at Russians sending a historian to educate these morons AND at the morons objecting to being educated.
I don't know about the historian, but when it's been Putin doing the monologuing (he loves to drone on at heads of State who visited previously and tried to persuade him to stop invading Ukraine), witnesses have said that he's factually wrong on multiple key historical events. So now he's just sending someone to do the same in his place - I doubt the "history" was entirely accurate.
However "wrong" Putin's history is, it's still more than these morons know. What do you think Trump, Rubio, and Hegseth know about Russia and Ukraine's common origins, how the two came to diverge, or even very recent history like how Crimea came to be allocated to Ukraine?
Anonymous
07/14/2025 20:38
Subject: Re:Trump’s Russua Reveal
Anonymous wrote:
Omg I'm CRYING with laughter both at Russians sending a historian to educate these morons AND at the morons objecting to being educated.
I don't know about the historian, but when it's been Putin doing the monologuing (he loves to drone on at heads of State who visited previously and tried to persuade him to stop invading Ukraine), witnesses have said that he's factually wrong on multiple key historical events. So now he's just sending someone to do the same in his place - I doubt the "history" was entirely accurate.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 20:34
Subject: Re:Trump’s Russua Reveal
Omg I'm CRYING with laughter both at Russians sending a historian to educate these morons AND at the morons objecting to being educated.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 20:19
Subject: Trump’s Russua Reveal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hegseth looks so out of the loop.
did his generation not get the don't do alcohol lessons in school?
No, we had D.A.R.E. Drugs were bad but booze was ok.
Anonymous
Anonymous
07/14/2025 12:03
Subject: Trump’s Russua Reveal
Anonymous wrote:Hegseth looks so out of the loop.
did his generation not get the don't do alcohol lessons in school?
Anonymous
07/14/2025 12:01
Subject: Trump’s Russua Reveal
Anonymous wrote:Hegseth looks so out of the loop.
Neurons swimming in alcohol.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 11:33
Subject: Trump’s Russua Reveal
Hegseth looks so out of the loop.
Anonymous
07/14/2025 11:21
Subject: Trump’s Russua Reveal
Why was the NATO head so much more clear and articulate than Rump (even though he was not even speaking his native language)?
Rump’s brain is just a scary soup of dysfunction.
Rump’s brain is just a scary soup of dysfunction.