Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They see the USA as a religious country like afganistan or pakistan. They would rather live in purity in poverty than learn cool stuff about materials, energy sources, etc.

cool stuff that will make us rich. now only china and europe get to be rich. but we will be pure.

pure hypocrisy

The Chinese investment in EVs, battery and self driving are having an impact similar to our investment in the manned moon missions. Chinese EV come standard with lidar which Tesla said was too expensive for mass marketed cars.

The Chinese are way ahead of the US in a lot of tech. They are also mapping the sea flood of the pacific for minerals exploration and tracking US submarines.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They see the USA as a religious country like afganistan or pakistan. They would rather live in purity in poverty than learn cool stuff about materials, energy sources, etc.

cool stuff that will make us rich. now only china and europe get to be rich. but we will be pure.

The problem, of course, is that there is no purity and it's somethign that will be perpetually out of reach. The dog can't be allowed to catch the car, and when it does, for example with the overturning of Roe v. Wade, it turns out life isnt' any better, no one is happier and no one has stopped having abortions. They're just more expensive and dangerous.

So, you're right, we won't get the nice stuff, the stuff that makes us rich and, for so long, admired and respected... and we'll be stuck with a fake never-ending chase for something that can't be had.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA doesn't mind.

I’d honestly be interested in the MAGA take on why this is good for America. Probably they’d claim that research is filled with corrupt academics and woke DEI.

Trump told them the only thing being studied is Transgender mice. They nodded along and said fine with the cuts. We’re all gonna die anyway, so who cares that we were on the precipice of having remarkable breakthroughs in medicine.
Who cares that fusion energy is almost within our grasp. God put coal in the earth and co2 is natural so it can’t harm us.
- I’ve been on X and the above is posted constantly

They don't understand and they don't care.

You can go to European countries and listen to the silence downtown adn on the highways as efficient, affordable, fun electric and hybrid cars drive by. They're better! But we can't have them because Lurlene and Lyle got on Facebook and want to know why things can't just be the way they used to be!

America used to be excited for the future... not anymore.

Anonymous wrote:They see the USA as a religious country like afganistan or pakistan. They would rather live in purity in poverty than learn cool stuff about materials, energy sources, etc.

cool stuff that will make us rich. now only china and europe get to be rich. but we will be pure.

They see the USA as a religious country like afganistan or pakistan. They would rather live in purity in poverty than learn cool stuff about materials, energy sources, etc.

Anonymous wrote:Is there any actually coherent plan behind this?

Take a wild guess.

We’re already making measles great again.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA doesn't mind.

I’d honestly be interested in the MAGA take on why this is good for America. Probably they’d claim that research is filled with corrupt academics and woke DEI.

ya, all those woke nuclear physicists. yep. definitely. but you are right, that is probably what they are thinking.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA doesn't mind.

I’d honestly be interested in the MAGA take on why this is good for America. Probably they’d claim that research is filled with corrupt academics and woke DEI.

Trump told them the only thing being studied is Transgender mice. They nodded along and said fine with the cuts. We’re all gonna die anyway, so who cares that we were on the precipice of having remarkable breakthroughs in medicine.
Who cares that fusion energy is almost within our grasp. God put coal in the earth and co2 is natural so it can’t harm us.
- I’ve been on X and the above is posted constantly

It isn't what "we" want, but it is what an authoritarian tyranny of the minority wants - all to benefit Russia and China.

Anonymous wrote:MAGA doesn't mind.

I’d honestly be interested in the MAGA take on why this is good for America. Probably they’d claim that research is filled with corrupt academics and woke DEI.

Is there any actually coherent plan behind this?

MAGA doesn't mind.

It is really hard to believe this is what we want: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/10/science/trump-science-budget-cuts.html

Just a quote from that article: he $154 billion figure the smallest amount that the federal government has spent on science in this century. ... The proposed drop in federal funding for science research, if approved by Congress, could let China match or take the lead in global science investments, Ms. Zimmermann said. ... In April, the science group published figures showing that China had greatly increased support for its scientific enterprise in the past two decades. As of 2023 — the most recent year available for comparisons — China’s investment was close to equaling that of the United States.