Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump made everybody millionaires so now millionaires moan about billionaires.

Compliment for Trump.

I also love how Trump now has democrats, for the first time in history, talking like deficit hawks. He should start advocating for no border security, DEI, and transgender surgeries for pet parrots. The left will be far right in no time.

I also love how Republicans have been completely exposed as deficit hawk frauds. As we’ve been reminded here over and over, the Republicans control all branches of government right now…and that’s what they passed. They’re frauds.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump made everybody millionaires so now millionaires moan about billionaires.

Compliment for Trump.

I also love how Trump now has democrats, for the first time in history, talking like deficit hawks. He should start advocating for no border security, DEI, and transgender surgeries for pet parrots. The left will be far right in no time.

Only for those of you who aren’t paying attention. Republicans ALWAYS trash the deficit. Democrats come in and balance the budget. Repeat. Too many of you have the memory of goldfish though.

Anonymous wrote:What higher deficit? They largely kept the same tax rates.
There would have been a higher debt no matter what budget passed, as we saw with all the CRs the last 15 years.
This time they managed to corral the conservatives whining about the deficit who refused to vote for any budget bill. Thus they didn't have to go to Democrats for votes and could pass a lower level of spending.

Those tax rates were set to expire because they could not be made permanent under reconciliation the first time around. When passed, Trump and Republicans assumed Trump would have two terms and the Dems would likely handle the fallout.

But now they have to handle it. And instead of doing that, they are making the tax cut permanent at a 3.3T cost of the deficit.

The deficit and debt will increase because these cuts were never meant to be permanent. They are not sustainable even with massive spending cuts. Republicans just proved that the level of spending cuts required to get the deficit under control are not viable politically. The only answer is tax increases, and instead of addressing the issue, they are kicking the can down the road and massively increasing the deficit and rate of increase to the debt.

Anonymous wrote:Trump made everybody millionaires so now millionaires moan about billionaires.

Compliment for Trump.

I also love how Trump now has democrats, for the first time in history, talking like deficit hawks. He should start advocating for no border security, DEI, and transgender surgeries for pet parrots. The left will be far right in no time.

Trump made everybody millionaires so now millionaires moan about billionaires.

Compliment for Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes absolutely. For every million in income, you save an average of 66k. You don't have to be a billionaire for this to be significant cost savings.

Every single tax bracket is getting tax relief. And unless you're a non-working adult on medicaid without a legit reason like illness or dependent care, the health aspects won't affect you. And if you are lounging around without a job and getting medicaid, you just get a job like everyone else. It only requires 20 hours of work per week- most people double that. So I don't see the problem.

Example 1 of duped person

Or a person who thinks for themselves. I even listened to the NYT's The Daily podcast on this for a left wing view. They went through all aspects of the bill, with mournful, poignant piano music in the background (hilarious, give those podcasters a raise for giving us a good laugh). The most that they could say is that disorganized people who don't bother to certify that they are working might lose their benefits. And that's how life is for most of us- we have to file paperwork and taxes and so on, or suffer negative consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:It is so evil and blatant to start the bill right after mid terms. People are so easily manipulated and duped. I’m scared for this country.

And republicans do this every time they pass a crappy bill. And voters fall for it over and over again.

Check out the "infrastructure" built with Build Back Better.

How much do you pay for health care vs pre-Obamacare?

Were you able to "keep your doctor?"

Yes, they get more Jesus for the low cost of healthcare coverage and SNAP benefits.

Anonymous wrote:It is so evil and blatant to start the bill right after mid terms. People are so easily manipulated and duped. I’m scared for this country.

And republicans do this every time they pass a crappy bill. And voters fall for it over and over again.

Anonymous wrote:Yes absolutely. For every million in income, you save an average of 66k. You don't have to be a billionaire for this to be significant cost savings.

Every single tax bracket is getting tax relief. And unless you're a non-working adult on medicaid without a legit reason like illness or dependent care, the health aspects won't affect you. And if you are lounging around without a job and getting medicaid, you just get a job like everyone else. It only requires 20 hours of work per week- most people double that. So I don't see the problem.

Example 1 of duped person

What higher deficit? They largely kept the same tax rates.
There would have been a higher debt no matter what budget passed, as we saw with all the CRs the last 15 years.
This time they managed to corral the conservatives whining about the deficit who refused to vote for any budget bill. Thus they didn't have to go to Democrats for votes and could pass a lower level of spending.

It is so evil and blatant to start the bill right after mid terms. People are so easily manipulated and duped. I’m scared for this country.

Yes absolutely. For every million in income, you save an average of 66k. You don't have to be a billionaire for this to be significant cost savings.

Every single tax bracket is getting tax relief. And unless you're a non-working adult on medicaid without a legit reason like illness or dependent care, the health aspects won't affect you. And if you are lounging around without a job and getting medicaid, you just get a job like everyone else. It only requires 20 hours of work per week- most people double that. So I don't see the problem.

Some of them genuinely believe this. Check out a few FOFO stories. Others have no idea what’s in the bill. They only know — and believe— what their chosen authority figures, like Trump, have told them. The sound bites include “lower taxes”. And yes, when some of the catastrophic cuts kick in AFTER the midterm elections, many of them will have no idea that the cuts stem from the BBB, but will blame “Biden”, or whoever is currently in office, or whoever they’re told to blame.

It boggles my mind, but here we are.

… if they’re not billionaires? They honestly believe that the cuts to Medicaid will only kick out “illegals” and lazy people? That the new higher deficit won’t have a negative impact on the economy and everyday people? I’m really trying to understand how Rep voters believe this. Is it Fox News propaganda? Are they really that gullible?