No grades

Anonymous wrote:so to reduce intra-school competition. To illustrate, A, B, C, D, E apply to T1, T2, T3, T4, T5, CCO tells Ts, A fits T1, B fits T2, etc. This way, it avoids the situation in which A gets accepted by T1-4, B accepted by T5, and C-E get nada.

If so, is there any way to pick up the signal during counselor meeting?

Was done for years at St Ann’s in Brooklyn. Headmaster told kids where they could go. Now college counselor calls the likes of Chicago and they tell counselor if the kid applies early they are in. But small special school w bo grades.

The school counselor doesn't have the power to tell admissions who to admit! These days, the counselors don't have any power. I have heard a counselor say it would be inappropriate for her to even mention specific students by name to the AO. It's not how it's done anymore.

Counselors will sometimes say, or hint, that a school is not likely for your student. But that's just based on what they've seen in the past with admissions decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:No, not at all at our school. You had colleges where 8-10 kids applied ED and no parents/kids were told this and many would have absolutely applied elsewhere had they known so many others were applying.

So no, no coordination was done at the most basic, internal level, let alone with the colleges.

Is this public or private? Very difficult to imagine in a private, their results will suffer, badly!

Private

Anonymous wrote:No, not at all at our school. You had colleges where 8-10 kids applied ED and no parents/kids were told this and many would have absolutely applied elsewhere had they known so many others were applying.

So no, no coordination was done at the most basic, internal level, let alone with the colleges.

Is this public or private? Very difficult to imagine in a private, their results will suffer, badly!

Anonymous wrote:No. Our CCO told us it doesn’t work that way anymore and hasn’t for many years.

Ours said the same. Two kids at T10 not discouraged anywhere but had friends with only slightly weaker apps discouraged from REA and ivy ED, encouraged to do T15-20 ED and got in

No, not at all at our school. You had colleges where 8-10 kids applied ED and no parents/kids were told this and many would have absolutely applied elsewhere had they known so many others were applying.

So no, no coordination was done at the most basic, internal level, let alone with the colleges.

No. Not at all.

No. Our CCO told us it doesn’t work that way anymore and hasn’t for many years.

Anonymous wrote:so to reduce intra-school competition. To illustrate, A, B, C, D, E apply to T1, T2, T3, T4, T5, CCO tells Ts, A fits T1, B fits T2, etc. This way, it avoids the situation in which A gets accepted by T1-4, B accepted by T5, and C-E get nada.

If so, is there any way to pick up the signal during counselor meeting?

No have not seen this at our private.
They may discourage you from an REA or ED if they think you aren't competitive compared to others applying.
Truthfully, though, I find they aren't as good as the private college counselors at seeing the big picture trends, either on what schools want (which schools want a humanitarian-focused EC vs a leadership EC highlighted in the EC essay, etc).

- two kids at T20 (both admitted in RD)

I think and hope the answer is mostly no.

I feel like the best you get is --- maybe don't apply ED there (to a kid that isn't as good as others ED to same school). But that level is a probably not happening or to the extent you want.

And these counselors don't know every school's priority every time -- that's why you hear kids complain when one kid "who is better" gets rejected in favor of another kid that has lower stats --- because schools decide based on what they want, not what your kid wants.

And many kids would be a good fit for many colleges and I highly highly recommend you start with that with your kid.

--mom of one college graduate and current college student both incredibly happy with their options and final picks

so to reduce intra-school competition. To illustrate, A, B, C, D, E apply to T1, T2, T3, T4, T5, CCO tells Ts, A fits T1, B fits T2, etc. This way, it avoids the situation in which A gets accepted by T1-4, B accepted by T5, and C-E get nada.

If so, is there any way to pick up the signal during counselor meeting?