Anonymous wrote:Six and five year old have hyperactive type and inattentive type respectively. The five year old especially cannot do anything I ask without me body doubling or yelling. I hate yelling and don't want to be this mom but honestly I don't know to do anymore. I can ask him 200 times to get his pajamas on and unless I raise my voice or stand next to him and walk him through it he just won't do it.
Is this something that gets better with time? With medication? We've tried a reminder/task chart with limited success. If people say I need to body double him and that's appropriate then I'll do that, I just worry I'm giving up on him building these skills if I do that for him with everything.
Thank you.
Anonymous wrote:PP here. Oh, i read your final paragraph one more time.
Specifically on bedtime or independence, here is what is working.
For independently doing a life routine, that is coming with age. For the absolute first time ever, my 10.5yo got it. End of school year, it was the first times he reliably got stuff done. Like a light switch. He isn’t medicated since he actually has hyperfocus (and not hyperactive). We could consider it later, but he’s functioning well enough at school.
For bedtime, a lot of the routine goes like this—
“I’m going to set a 5 minute timer. I’m going to check that you have brushed your teeth when it goes. Did you hear me? (Repeat sometimes) Starting.. now!” (It helps that it’s the same phrase every night. Once they do “hear” me, they’re like “yeah, yeah brush my teeth.”
And they don’t rush off to do it. Which is the beautiful part. I now have 4-5 minutes to step away. Whereas I used to stand over them and be like “do it now!”
I sometimes distantly and pleasantly shout a little reminder. “1 minute left!” I hear them scramble to start, lol.
Or, the timer rings. I let them hear the volume. I don’t stop it on my phone as I approach. “It’s ringing. I’m coming to check that you have brushed your teeth” I say as I walk slowly, giving them some mercy as I hear them scramble again to do the right thing.
Sometimes excuses, “I didn’t start, I was …” I usually hand out mercy, but sometimes it’s a light bop on the butt (sports style, not a spank). Maybe “Ok, I’ll set a 2 minute timer this time.”
I can sometimes get angry here, but it’s like 10% of the time. Usually, it’s me being able to walk away in peace for those 5m and that helps.
When done, I say it again for pajamas.
I say it again for “last drink, last pee and in bee.”
You could do it again for quiet playtime, etc.
The time isn’t giving them 5 minutes, it’s giving me and DH time to not stand over them. It used to bug him that they didn’t start right away. But that’s the point.
Thanks!!
Anonymous wrote:Some kids need more than a task chart. Like for bedtime, instead of just a task chart in a hallway, you can hang up instructions for each task at the location where he does it (ideally with pictures). Like a sign in the bathroom with the steps of toothbrushing broken down. Also there are lots of visual timers designed for kids with ADHD.
Combining this sort of thing with rewards helps as well, whatever their currency is. A trick I use is that every time my kid does what I ask, when I ask, I put a crafting pom pom in a jar. When the jar is full, we go to the store and she can pick out a new book or toy. It's very visual (the pom poms are colorful) and an easy way to "catch her being good."
I'd also look at you schedule and see if there are pinch points you can avoid. We try to avoid scheduling tasks our ADHDer is resistant to right after tasks she really enjoys. So for instance, she has to get totally ready for bed right after dinner (pajamas, teeth brushed, room straightened). THEN she can play or read or watch TV, or whatever her leisure activity is that night. That way when it's time for bed, we don't have to get her through a whole routine. In the mornings, we frontload the hard stuff (getting dressed, packing bag, even putting on shoes) before breakfast. We keep a toothbrush in the small bathroom near the front door so she can do that right before we leave.
I also seek to reduce decision making as much as possible. She wears outfits on a rotation and the next outfit is always hung up at the front of her closet on school days (she wears a uniform, which helps a lot). She eats the same packed lunch daily, and the items are in numbered containers she eats in order. That kind of thing.
It's a lot of work, but we have seen good improvement over the last few years, and I rarely have to physically dress her or just pick her up and move her through these tasks as I did when she was 5 /6. And there are fewer fights and no yelling.
Anonymous wrote:I think you need to body double him for now. I'm sorry, I know it's really hard. You need to accept, on a deep level, that you are parenting a child with a disability that is, for now at least, pretty significant.
5 and 6 re really tough ages for ADHD.