Anonymous
Post 06/12/2025 21:19     Subject: are flights on any US made aircraft viable anymore?
Anonymous wrote:Fleets of silent, battery powered helicopters the size of a large SUV are coming. They'll take over regional air travel in the next few years, cutting jet plane travel by 50% or more. Fewer planes means less strain on air traffic control and maintenance crews.


Ha yes if there is one thing that will make things safer, it's more helicopters.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2025 20:39     Subject: are flights on any US made aircraft viable anymore?
Anonymous wrote:Pilot on X says no flaps used.
You can see video of plane rolling along, flaps not deployed. In air, no flaps.
Apparently can't move them to right position in sir or stalls.
Looks like it stalled anyway just sank down nose slightly up.
Could be mechanical or pilots error.

IiRC we had a crash in US due to flaps long ago I remember pax yelling flaps as we rolled for takeoff for some time after.


And it was more than a 100F that day, which means lift is harder. The Mayday call indicates the pilots were aware there was a problem, but did they know it was the flaps? Was an additional failure involved? Time will tell.

Anonymous
Post 06/12/2025 20:31     Subject: are flights on any US made aircraft viable anymore?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This almost certainly will end up being pilot error and have nothing to do with Boeing.


Like the MCAS issue, where you have to pay extra for the right sensor and proper training?


This plane has been around since 2011. It’s not a new plane like the Max planes.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2025 20:09     Subject: are flights on any US made aircraft viable anymore?
Pilot on X says no flaps used.
You can see video of plane rolling along, flaps not deployed. In air, no flaps.
Apparently can't move them to right position in sir or stalls.
Looks like it stalled anyway just sank down nose slightly up.
Could be mechanical or pilots error.

IiRC we had a crash in US due to flaps long ago I remember pax yelling flaps as we rolled for takeoff for some time after.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2025 20:01     Subject: are flights on any US made aircraft viable anymore?
Anonymous wrote:This almost certainly will end up being pilot error and have nothing to do with Boeing.


Like the MCAS issue, where you have to pay extra for the right sensor and proper training?
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2025 20:01     Subject: are flights on any US made aircraft viable anymore?
Anonymous wrote:This almost certainly will end up being pilot error and have nothing to do with Boeing.


This is my assumption as well. But it may be months to a year before we know. NTSB will probably help.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2025 19:52     Subject: are flights on any US made aircraft viable anymore?
I mean, honestly.

Boeing?

Who thought that was the right name for an airline????


Anonymous
Post 06/12/2025 19:32     Subject: are flights on any US made aircraft viable anymore?
Fleets of silent, battery powered helicopters the size of a large SUV are coming. They'll take over regional air travel in the next few years, cutting jet plane travel by 50% or more. Fewer planes means less strain on air traffic control and maintenance crews.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2025 18:57     Subject: are flights on any US made aircraft viable anymore?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Risking your life: I assume then you aren't getting in a car the rest of the year?


DP. Yes I'm getting in a car, but it's Japanese. Wish the Japanese would make a larger commercial jet. That would be the one.

Come on Honda, build that market sector! The light business jet is great, but give us a wide body!


Surely you have a great chance of dying in a Japanese made car than in a Boeing airplane.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2025 18:17     Subject: are flights on any US made aircraft viable anymore?
This almost certainly will end up being pilot error and have nothing to do with Boeing.
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2025 18:16     Subject: are flights on any US made aircraft viable anymore?
Anonymous wrote:Risking your life: I assume then you aren't getting in a car the rest of the year?


DP. Yes I'm getting in a car, but it's Japanese. Wish the Japanese would make a larger commercial jet. That would be the one.

Come on Honda, build that market sector! The light business jet is great, but give us a wide body!
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2025 18:12     Subject: are flights on any US made aircraft viable anymore?
Risking your life: I assume then you aren't getting in a car the rest of the year?
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2025 18:09     Subject: are flights on any US made aircraft viable anymore?
You may not have much choice, as Airbus assembles jets in the US.

The jury's out on what happened in India, but Boeing does seem to have systemic issues.


Anonymous
Post 06/12/2025 18:04     Subject: are flights on any US made aircraft viable anymore?
Do we know why it crashed?
Anonymous
Post 06/12/2025 17:52     Subject: are flights on any US made aircraft viable anymore?
Yet another crash in a Boeing aircraft. After the huge scandal and scary cost cutting corners exposed recently, how many here are still willing to risk their lives on an American made plane?