Anonymous wrote:This gives me hope that caring for elderly can count as work requirement. Since many will get kicked off Medicaid and have to leave nursing homes, they will need family to care for them, and family will then be unable to work.

That would be great. Many people — me included — lost employee sponsored health insurance when I was caring for an elderly relative. Being older, unemployed, with a job gap is not a great place to be. The whole health insurance/ healthcare system needs to be reformed. I say this as someone who has worked in healthcare.

Anonymous wrote:That is not what he said and you know it, OP.

Nowhere does he say "don't matter" as you have stated or that they "don't deserve healthcare."

He is basically telling them to get a life. Do something productive. If you want the government to PAY for your healthcare, do something.
And, you seem to have a problem with that.

Here are his comments:

“We’re asking that able-bodied individuals who are able to go back to work at least try to get a job or at least volunteer or take care of loved-one who needs help or go back to school,” he said. “Do something that shows you have agency over your future.”
If Americans are willing to do that, he added, they should be able to be enrolled or stay enrolled in Medicaid.
“But if you are not willing to do those things, we are going to ask you to do something else. Go on the exchange, or get a job and get onto regular commercial insurance. But we are not going to continue to pay for Medicaid for those audiences.”

“Go out there, do entry-level jobs, get into the workforce, prove that you matter. Get agency into your own life,” he added. “It’s a much more enjoyable experience if you go through life thinking you are in control of your destiny and you will get better insurance at the same time.”

Why not provide something like Americorps where you can work for low wages helping communities and get health care that way. If they really want them to work in order to give them healthcare, hire them

Anonymous wrote:This gives me hope that there will be a populist revolt and we can finally get single payer healthcare not tied to employment!

+1

That is not what he said and you know it, OP.

Nowhere does he say "don't matter" as you have stated or that they "don't deserve healthcare."

He is basically telling them to get a life. Do something productive. If you want the government to PAY for your healthcare, do something.
And, you seem to have a problem with that.

Here are his comments:

“We’re asking that able-bodied individuals who are able to go back to work at least try to get a job or at least volunteer or take care of loved-one who needs help or go back to school,” he said. “Do something that shows you have agency over your future.”
If Americans are willing to do that, he added, they should be able to be enrolled or stay enrolled in Medicaid.
“But if you are not willing to do those things, we are going to ask you to do something else. Go on the exchange, or get a job and get onto regular commercial insurance. But we are not going to continue to pay for Medicaid for those audiences.”

“Go out there, do entry-level jobs, get into the workforce, prove that you matter. Get agency into your own life,” he added. “It’s a much more enjoyable experience if you go through life thinking you are in control of your destiny and you will get better insurance at the same time.”

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I just read the interview at the link you posted, and he was talking about removing people from Medicaid who are physically able to do something - work, school, even helping sick family members - but don't or won't. His comment "prove that you matter" seems to be more about encouraging those individuals to take more interest in their own lives.

You are so gullible.

People who aren’t doing anything generally have addiction or mental health issues, often undiagnosed.

Finding a job can be impossible, even for educated hard workers. Long term unemployed??

School? School? School costs a LOT of money. (checks notes… Dept of Education probably won’t help)

Okay, I guess we can have people earn credits for helping sick family members who likely lost Medicaid, whose tracking that?

This is Welfare Queen fantasy all over again

+1

I wish they would provide the data when they talk about fraud, etc. A friend of mine lost his job during the 2008 crisis and has had a hard time finding something permanent since then because he was in his 50s at the time and nobody wants to hire older workers (he's in his 60s now). He has done contract work to fill the gap, but that often doesn't provide health insurance, and he has two children under the age of 26.

A lot of people work jobs that don’t provide employer healthcare. Those people have to buy their insurance on the exchange. I know because that is our family - we are both self-employed. It sucks.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I just read the interview at the link you posted, and he was talking about removing people from Medicaid who are physically able to do something - work, school, even helping sick family members - but don't or won't. His comment "prove that you matter" seems to be more about encouraging those individuals to take more interest in their own lives.

You are so gullible.

People who aren’t doing anything generally have addiction or mental health issues, often undiagnosed.

Finding a job can be impossible, even for educated hard workers. Long term unemployed??

School? School? School costs a LOT of money. (checks notes… Dept of Education probably won’t help)

Okay, I guess we can have people earn credits for helping sick family members who likely lost Medicaid, whose tracking that?

This is Welfare Queen fantasy all over again

+1

I wish they would provide the data when they talk about fraud, etc. A friend of mine lost his job during the 2008 crisis and has had a hard time finding something permanent since then because he was in his 50s at the time and nobody wants to hire older workers (he's in his 60s now). He has done contract work to fill the gap, but that often doesn't provide health insurance, and he has two children under the age of 26.

This gives me hope that there will be a populist revolt and we can finally get single payer healthcare not tied to employment!

This gives me hope that caring for elderly can count as work requirement. Since many will get kicked off Medicaid and have to leave nursing homes, they will need family to care for them, and family will then be unable to work.

The 2026 mid-term election is going to be a huge surprise to the GOP! With changes in Medicaid, Medicare, SSI, and SS red states are going to become blue blood!

Anonymous wrote:Well, I just read the interview at the link you posted, and he was talking about removing people from Medicaid who are physically able to do something - work, school, even helping sick family members - but don't or won't. His comment "prove that you matter" seems to be more about encouraging those individuals to take more interest in their own lives.

You are so gullible.

People who aren’t doing anything generally have addiction or mental health issues, often undiagnosed.

Finding a job can be impossible, even for educated hard workers. Long term unemployed??

School? School? School costs a LOT of money. (checks notes… Dept of Education probably won’t help)

Okay, I guess we can have people earn credits for helping sick family members who likely lost Medicaid, whose tracking that?

This is Welfare Queen fantasy all over again

Well, I just read the interview at the link you posted, and he was talking about removing people from Medicaid who are physically able to do something - work, school, even helping sick family members - but don't or won't. His comment "prove that you matter" seems to be more about encouraging those individuals to take more interest in their own lives.

Anonymous wrote:
Pro-life party, everyone.

Kill everyone who doesn't have a job after Trump crashes the economy.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5334508-dr-oz-medicaid-cuts-work-requirements/

Good ol' Mehmet.

Does he realize how many white MAGAots are on medicaid? 40 million. I'd bet most of those people voted for this disaster.

These people will just end up in the emergency rooms for care.

Pro-life party, everyone.

Kill everyone who doesn't have a job after Trump crashes the economy.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5334508-dr-oz-medicaid-cuts-work-requirements/