Anonymous wrote:OP:

160 million federal tax payers would stop having to pay and subsidize the health care of nearly 11 million Americans.

Why should they?

Who pays the bill when an uninsured person shows up in the ER?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’d all like free healthcare. Oh well. I don’t buy the argument that all these people will end up in the ER. Some of the care is likely unnecessary and they just get it because it’s free.

If you want to talk affordable healthcare for ALL, not tied to employment, then we can talk about a sliding scale where some don’t pay.

You’re right. I can’t count the number of times I’ve scheduled needless medical appoints just because I have health insurance and a $35 copay. /s

Your ignorance is showing. Pay $150 minimum to go anywhere. And yes I skip appointments that I would go to if they were free. Were you even aware that some of us, with health insurance we pay through the nose for, still have to pay that much to see a doctor?

DP.

Free to who? Nothing is free.

Copays are there so people create a value proposition in their minds if it's really worth going to the doctor after they stubbed their toe.

Correct. And everyone should have a co pay. Not just us schmucks who have to subsidize everyone else already.

Healthcare is so effed up in this country. And I'm of the opinion that it has to get even worse before they will even begin to consider serious reforms. So burn it down.

Anonymous wrote:OP:

160 million federal tax payers would stop having to pay and subsidize the health care of nearly 11 million Americans.

Why should they?

Because we all pay more for the uninsured one way or another.
Because people can manage their health better when they have health insurance and aren't running to the ER (which we pay for) as medical care.
Because we're all safer when the people around us are healthier. You can't wrap yourself in a hermetic bubble. Sick people around you will get you sick.

And because most of us have a moral compass and don't want our fellow Americans dying due to lack of health care in the richest country in the world.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’d all like free healthcare. Oh well. I don’t buy the argument that all these people will end up in the ER. Some of the care is likely unnecessary and they just get it because it’s free.

If you want to talk affordable healthcare for ALL, not tied to employment, then we can talk about a sliding scale where some don’t pay.

You’re right. I can’t count the number of times I’ve scheduled needless medical appoints just because I have health insurance and a $35 copay. /s

Your ignorance is showing. Pay $150 minimum to go anywhere. And yes I skip appointments that I would go to if they were free. Were you even aware that some of us, with health insurance we pay through the nose for, still have to pay that much to see a doctor?

DP.

Free to who? Nothing is free.

Copays are there so people create a value proposition in their minds if it's really worth going to the doctor after they stubbed their toe.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’d all like free healthcare. Oh well. I don’t buy the argument that all these people will end up in the ER. Some of the care is likely unnecessary and they just get it because it’s free.

If you want to talk affordable healthcare for ALL, not tied to employment, then we can talk about a sliding scale where some don’t pay.

You’re right. I can’t count the number of times I’ve scheduled needless medical appoints just because I have health insurance and a $35 copay. /s

Your ignorance is showing. Pay $150 minimum to go anywhere. And yes I skip appointments that I would go to if they were free. Were you even aware that some of us, with health insurance we pay through the nose for, still have to pay that much to see a doctor?

OP:

160 million federal tax payers would stop having to pay and subsidize the health care of nearly 11 million Americans.

Why should they?

including 1.4 million undocumented residents who get coverage through state-funded programs

Good! Maybe if we stop giving free incentives to illegal aliens, they will stop sneaking into our country. Cuba has wonderful, free health care, let them go there. Oh wait, Cuba enforces their immigration laws. Never mind.

Anonymous wrote:We’d all like free healthcare. Oh well. I don’t buy the argument that all these people will end up in the ER. Some of the care is likely unnecessary and they just get it because it’s free.

If you want to talk affordable healthcare for ALL, not tied to employment, then we can talk about a sliding scale where some don’t pay.

I would love to be poor and desperate just to get free things. God, what a moron. This would also affect people who buy insurance from the exchanges. The ACA is being hit, too.

Anonymous wrote:We’d all like free healthcare. Oh well. I don’t buy the argument that all these people will end up in the ER. Some of the care is likely unnecessary and they just get it because it’s free.

If you want to talk affordable healthcare for ALL, not tied to employment, then we can talk about a sliding scale where some don’t pay.

No one is going to get free unnecessary healthcare in the US…my god, lol, are you kidding?

Anonymous wrote:We’d all like free healthcare. Oh well. I don’t buy the argument that all these people will end up in the ER. Some of the care is likely unnecessary and they just get it because it’s free.

If you want to talk affordable healthcare for ALL, not tied to employment, then we can talk about a sliding scale where some don’t pay.

You’re right. I can’t count the number of times I’ve scheduled needless medical appoints just because I have health insurance and a $35 copay. /s

We’d all like free healthcare. Oh well. I don’t buy the argument that all these people will end up in the ER. Some of the care is likely unnecessary and they just get it because it’s free.

If you want to talk affordable healthcare for ALL, not tied to employment, then we can talk about a sliding scale where some don’t pay.

Anonymous wrote:We pay thus in terms of hospitals raising prices because they still will treat them (and likely more with far more expensive care now that these folks won't get primary medical care) but not get reimbursed.

But if we pay higher prices to healthcare orgs, I guess that makes people happy?

Yup crowd the ERs with people who lack health insurance and could have been treated much cheaply with appropriate regular care

We pay thus in terms of hospitals raising prices because they still will treat them (and likely more with far more expensive care now that these folks won't get primary medical care) but not get reimbursed.

But if we pay higher prices to healthcare orgs, I guess that makes people happy?

But it gives billionaires just a little more money. It’s that worth it?

Because nothing says “Making America Great Again” like having more then 10 million Americans losing their health insurance under Trump.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/06/04/cbo-10-9-million-lose-insurance-trump-tax-bill/84029350007/

About 10.9 million Americans would lose health insurance coverage under the President Donald Trump's tax cut bill that cleared the House but faces a tough test in the Senate, a new analysis shows.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said about 10.9 million Americans would lose health insurance coverage through 2034 under the bill, including 1.4 million undocumented residents who get coverage through state-funded programs.

Health analysts said if the Medicaid changes as well as tweaks to the Affordable Care Act marketplace clear Congress, the effects on health insurance coverage would be significant.