Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With maga taking down ivies, this might become true in a few years. Sad.

The Ivies are falling out of favor because people finally discovered the 30% legacy admissions, the sports recruiting, and figured out the academic accomplishments are highly inflated at the Ivies.

They are exclusive rich-kids clubs which are not really much better than many of the best alternatives.

yes and full of foreign students

Ivies are and will remain powerful because they attract the best people, not because of their courses or professors. Harvard will become more important, not less, because of its persecution by Trump. A year ago, no one would use the word "sympathetic" to describe Harvard--and yet now they have that, too. People can rage all they want about these institutions, but every parent and child will always maximize future utility, power, and wealth, and these places are the surest way to achieve that.

Mmmkay. Well with two kids at different ivies the data certainly indicates they are doing quite well. Engineering grads making more than Wharton and Wharton still killing it compared to every school but MIT. The premeds getting into top med schools from both schools. The pre-phD kid at cornell getting on his paid competitive summer internship zoom yesterday and wow no surprise an outsized portion of the interns are from ivy and similar schools.
Add to that, mine are on need based aid as are more than half the students at these schools. Not full of rich brats and legacies like dcum thinks.

Do we really need this same thread every few days? Answer: No, the Ivies are not outdated and irrelevant. It is not necessary to go to an Ivy to be successful (and never has been). But it sure does make it easier to be successful if you went to one.

Someone got rejected.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With maga taking down ivies, this might become true in a few years. Sad.

The Ivies are falling out of favor because people finally discovered the 30% legacy admissions, the sports recruiting, and figured out the academic accomplishments are highly inflated at the Ivies.

Cal takes a huge number from community colleges. Though I think top 10% CAL graduates are on par with top half of ivy graduates.

Anonymous wrote:It’s the era of the tech/STEm schools. They’re the ones changing the world these days. IMO, the most important schools the last 100 years are:

Berkeley
Stanford
MIT
CMU
Georgia Tech

In that order.

Ok

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With maga taking down ivies, this might become true in a few years. Sad.

The Ivies are falling out of favor because people finally discovered the 30% legacy admissions, the sports recruiting, and figured out the academic accomplishments are highly inflated at the Ivies.

They are exclusive rich-kids clubs which are not really much better than many of the best alternatives.

Anonymous wrote:With maga taking down ivies, this might become true in a few years. Sad.

The Ivies are falling out of favor because people finally discovered the 30% legacy admissions, the sports recruiting, and figured out the academic accomplishments are highly inflated at the Ivies.

MIT is top, not Cal.

FWIW, my sibling went to Cal.

Anonymous wrote:It’s the era of the tech/STEm schools. They’re the ones changing the world these days. IMO, the most important schools the last 100 years are:

Berkeley
Stanford
MIT
CMU
Georgia Tech

In that order.

It's kind of stupid since the graduates of some of the most successful companies graduated or dropped out of Harvard (Gates/Zuckerberg), Penn (Musk), Princeton (Bezos)...and yes Stanford which has always been on the list. Those schools also have strong STEM.

Also, the last 100 years? So, since 1925? Maybe the next 100 years?

With maga taking down ivies, this might become true in a few years. Sad.

NP.

The age of the Ancient Eight is rapidly coming to an end.

Here we go again.

Hope you feel better about your degree.

It’s the era of the tech/STEm schools. They’re the ones changing the world these days. IMO, the most important schools the last 100 years are:

Berkeley
Stanford
MIT
CMU
Georgia Tech

In that order.